 cchhat01Dr. Zoidberg
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| New Low Power Haswells in NAS configurations Hi All,
I just got thinking about using a low powered haswell in a NAS configuration. Their TDPs range in 11.5-15W which already fairly low and with SpeedStep it would even reduce power consumption during idle time.
Firstly, are these haswells (core i5-4200Y/U, i5-4300Y/U and core i5-4202Y), available for purchases by end users?
Are these APUs such that they are generally only available as an option to OEMs? Who then just solder them directly onto their motherboards?
I'm confused about the use of mobile CPUs and their use cases when it comes to a en end-user.
Thanks,
cchhat01
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| I don't think you will find the ultra low voltage chips available for purchase in the retail channel for the end user. They are designed for ultrabooks.
If you want a very low power device why not buy a home/small office nas appliance, rather than trying to roll your own? |
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decxPremium
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Vancouver, BC | said by asdfdfdfdfdf:If you want a very low power device why not buy a home/small office nas appliance, rather than trying to roll your own?
The main thing is that the ULV Haswells are significantly more capable (especially for multimedia purposes) than the ARM or Atoms currently used in most home and small office NAS appliances. |
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cchhat01Dr. Zoidberg
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1 recommendation | said by decx:said by asdfdfdfdfdf:If you want a very low power device why not buy a home/small office nas appliance, rather than trying to roll your own?
The main thing is that the ULV Haswells are significantly more capable (especially for multimedia purposes) than the ARM or Atoms currently used in most home and small office NAS appliances. This is precisely the reason why I was asking. The Intel Atoms - although low powered solutions - lack in processing power. Moreover, the power consumption advantage of speedstep technology is certainly is very favorable. The Atom solutions out there (such as the Synology DS713+) is a dual core (hyper threading) solution but it runs at a constant 2.13 GHZ even when it does not need to be.
The Haswells allow for better, faster and low-voltage memory (and more capacity). Certainly more SATA ports can be supported.
Some of these Haswells I listed have an SDP (similar to TDP) of about 6W which is a huge power saving bonus.
I'm not trying to round up all the key points, I am just trying to gauge the availability of such processors to end users because there is an niche group of users out there who strive to reduce HTPC and NAS power consumption and the ability is there, so why aren't they easily accessible to users.
thanks,
cchhat01
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 pnjunctionTeksavvy ExtremePremium
join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON
kudos:1 | I think you are right that Synology et al might use these to put in their next-gen consumer NAS products. The 2.13GHz Atom you are talking about, the D2700 which was the fastest one, has actually been discontinued. I think that's partly why we see the DS413 now with a weaker ~1 GHz processor.
The big factor in whether we see Haswell solutions will probably be what Intel is charging. Another reason why they might have dropped the DS412+ for the DS413 so quickly is that at $700 the 412+ was a bit expensive for most and the price of the D2700 must have been part of that. |
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 VegasManAre We There Yet?Premium
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I could be wrong but I thought I read that these are BGA's. While not impossible to get down safely without popping them, it would be tough and not only that but where would you get the unpopulated MOBO?
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