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| French ISP upgrades fiber customers to gigabit »news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-576054···oadband/
Its broadband service costs 30 euros a month, or about $41, for areas with unbundled access and 36 euros, or $49, in areas where it's not unbundled.
Canadians can only wish for such a deal! |
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 | Canadian govt should look where we are because of rogers , bell .... |
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 loyd join:2012-09-24 Niagara Falls, ON | reply to ezebob2
French don't have 7200km from one end of country to another. |
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| said by loyd:French don't have 7200km from one end of country to another.
Nobody is saying string fiber to every rural user...
but neglecting the large population centres is not helping. --
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Canada may be wide and vast but take a look where our urban centers are which are with in 100km of the US Canada border and build out from the urban cores to the next biggest towns and cities and so on.
Fiber keeps dropping in price I know that for a fact but not sure on the numbers per Km of Fiber cable. |
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said by loyd:French don't have 7200km from one end of country to another.
That argument is old. Canada has fewer people to serve and a large majority of Canada's population lives in urban areas. Canada is ranked 37th in urbanization at 81%, ahead of many countries that have much higher internet speeds at cheaper prices. |
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In my opinion in Canada it is all about the old school saying of 'maximizing profit margins at ALL COSTS'.
It's not like there is a shortage of IP transit capacity in Canada, in fact in large urban centres like Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal there are at least 3-5 large multi-national suppliers bringing in terabits of cross border capacity. Plus the majority of Canadians live within 100km of the US border and the large US cities (e.g. Seattle, Chicago and New York City) are relatively CLOSER to these Canadian cities than the US south.
Technology in terms of capacity can solve literally anything (the latest DWDM systems do 100Gbps per wavelength over 8.8Tbps per fibre pair).
It's all about business and revenue/profit margin, period.
It's not a surprise on modernised networks the carriers can offer unlimited bandwidth.
The only real cost is the construction cost of FTTH to the end user. I guess in France the operator seems to bear this cost. |
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I have a feeling some large competitive US multi-nationals feel the Canadian IP transit market is VERY PROFITABLE for them.
I just read that some months ago that Hurricane Electric finished their cross-Canada loop shown on the map here: »www.he.net/HurricaneElectricNetworkMap.pdf
Probably precisely to cash in on the Canadian market. Cogentco launched Ottawa (in addition to Vancouver, Montreal and Toronto) publicly saying in their Investor Reports that the Canadian market is profitable for them. |
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 | Want add a little things... This i french isp have really bad peering... |
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 IanPremium join:2002-06-18 ON kudos:2 | reply to loyd
That argument is crap. No excuse for crappy broadband in high density areas like the GTA, other than incumbent monopolies/duopolies raping customers. |
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 | said by Ian:That argument is crap. No excuse for crappy broadband in high density areas like the GTA, other than incumbent monopolies/duopolies raping customers.
Toronto is ranked 97th in the world...
Hasn't like Verizon got 4 times more customer than the Canadian Telecom ? Verizon has more customers then Canada population. |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium join:2006-08-30 HarperLand kudos:1 | reply to willzzz
said by willzzz:In my opinion in Canada America it is all about the old school saying of 'maximizing profit margins at ALL COSTS'.
Fixed it, we just get sucked into the same mentality. |
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| Actually laying fibre in rural and semi rural areas may well be far easier than in urban areas!!! String the fibre on the poles!
Also, you'll find in Europe, they string cables across the outside of urban buildings without much consideration for appearance and urban buildings there are mostly adjoining each other like our city centre cores.
You would be astonished how rural France actually is! The major difference is the urbanization are far higher population density than our urban areas.
Bottom line on average is that distances in Canada make a singificant item on transit, but not last mile delivery. |
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