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Re: But wait I think the content owners are the ones who are losing out with the 24 hour period.
The consumer has no need to wait. They can download it a few minutes after its done airing and watch it for free. Their alternative option is to wait 24 hours and pay for it.
Seriously how did you phrase your sentence like the consumer is in the wrong? Yes pirating is wrong, but when pirating is the only given choice for those 24 hours, what decision do you expect people to make.
As for other countries. I can't understand why there's international wait restrictions anymore. With the internet once something airs on a tv stations somewhere it's basically aired throughout the entire planet. Expecting fans to wait weeks/months to watch it as asking a lot.
I'm not condoning piracy. I'm asking them to release the products everywhere at the same time. The only people getting hurt by staggering releases are the content owners. |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
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| said by zod5000:I think the content owners are the ones who are losing out with the 24 hour period.
The consumer has no need to wait. They can download it a few minutes after its done airing and watch it for free. Their alternative option is to wait 24 hours and pay for it.
Seriously how did you phrase your sentence like the consumer is in the wrong? Yes pirating is wrong, but when pirating is the only given choice for those 24 hours, what decision do you expect people to make.
As for other countries. I can't understand why there's international wait restrictions anymore. With the internet once something airs on a tv stations somewhere it's basically aired throughout the entire planet. Expecting fans to wait weeks/months to watch it as asking a lot.
I'm not condoning piracy. I'm asking them to release the products everywhere at the same time. The only people getting hurt by staggering releases are the content owners.
I'll take the $2.99 1080P, 5.1DD download from Amazon over the free BitTorrnet any day. |
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 NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Comcast
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·Callcentric
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said by zod5000:I think the content owners are the ones who are losing out with the 24 hour period.
The consumer has no need to wait. They can download it a few minutes after its done airing and watch it for free. Their alternative option is to wait 24 hours and pay for it.
Seriously how did you phrase your sentence like the consumer is in the wrong? Yes pirating is wrong, but when pirating is the only given choice for those 24 hours, what decision do you expect people to make.
As for other countries. I can't understand why there's international wait restrictions anymore. With the internet once something airs on a tv stations somewhere it's basically aired throughout the entire planet. Expecting fans to wait weeks/months to watch it as asking a lot.
I'm not condoning piracy. I'm asking them to release the products everywhere at the same time. The only people getting hurt by staggering releases are the content owners.
I can understand the way it was years ago, when you had to wait months for a full series to be released. However, 24 hours? I think thats a little excessive. If you want immediate access, then pay for cable or Satellite. That simple.
IMHO, the consumer is wrong in this case. Its pretty simple to see. As you said, piracy is wrong, and consumers should be able to wait 24 freaking hours to get the content legally.
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·Shaw
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It's only 24 hours, release the content right away and collect your $2/ep. What's 24 hours to itunes/content owners?
From a profitibility statement I think the consumers have the stronger hand. How does AMC convince people to wait 24 hours and pay for it? Tell them its the right thing to do. lol. There the ones losing sales not the consumers because people don't want to wait 24 hours and accidently read spoilers in the headlines of news pages. |
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NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI Reviews:
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·ooma
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| said by zod5000:The argument works both ways:
It's only 24 hours, release the content right away and collect your $2/ep. What's 24 hours to itunes/content owners?
From a profitibility statement I think the consumers have the stronger hand. How does AMC convince people to wait 24 hours and pay for it? Tell them its the right thing to do. lol. There the ones losing sales not the consumers because people don't want to wait 24 hours and accidently read spoilers in the headlines of news pages.
Very true. I cannot argue with that at all. Sounds like we both agree on each other's main points....
1. Piracy isn't the answer.
2. 24 hours isn't a big deal to wait unlike it was in the past.
3. Broadcasters should be releasing their content same day within an hour of the broadcast.
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said by zod5000:The argument works both ways:
It's only 24 hours, release the content right away and collect your $2/ep. What's 24 hours to iTunes/content owners?
From a profitability statement I think the consumers have the stronger hand. How does AMC convince people to wait 24 hours and pay for it? Tell them its the right thing to do? LOL. There the ones losing sales not the consumers because people don't want to wait 24 hours and accidently read spoilers in the headlines of news pages. Couldn't agree more. I have said it before in various posts and will say it again: there are tons of businesses in many industries that are based on premise that people want stuff and they want it now. Those that can deliver on that end up making a lot of money, or people end up getting it elsewhere as was the case here. So for AMC not to take advantage of such an opportunity with a show that is so insanely popular is just beyond stupid. And it's not like they are withholding the content because it's not ready. Yes, back in the physical media days there was a valid reason for delays: stuff was originally recorded on film, to bring it out to home video market it had to be transferred to VHS (later on DVD), then copies had to be distributed to retailers all over, which took time. This day and age almost everything is filmed in digital, so if it's ready to be shown on TV, it's also ready for DVD/Blu-ray and online distribution as well. I bet that iTunes, Amazon and other legal outlets do have copies of content ahead of time; they simply cannot distribute it sooner than studios say so due to contractual obligations.
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness | reply to zod5000
said by zod5000:I think the content owners are the ones who are losing out with the 24 hour period.
The consumer has no need to wait. They can download it a few minutes after its done airing and watch it for free. Their alternative option is to wait 24 hours and pay for it.
Seriously how did you phrase your sentence like the consumer is in the wrong? Yes pirating is wrong, but when pirating is the only given choice for those 24 hours, what decision do you expect people to make. I expect people to act like fricken grown ups with morals. If my posts are childish what is pirating something because one can't wait 24 hours? And if one wants to watch it now how come they aren't watching it on TV when it's on in the first place? |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness | reply to zod5000
said by zod5000:The argument works both ways:
It's only 24 hours, release the content right away and collect your $2/ep. What's 24 hours to itunes/content owners?
From a profitibility statement I think the consumers have the stronger hand. How does AMC convince people to wait 24 hours and pay for it? Tell them its the right thing to do. lol. There the ones losing sales not the consumers because people don't want to wait 24 hours and accidently read spoilers in the headlines of news pages.
Because AMC re-runs the show a couple of hours later. I can guarantee they make more money in advertising from that 2nd showing than they would gain in sales buy offering it for sale right after the first showing. |
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6 recommendations | reply to BF69
said by BF69:I expect people to act like fricken grown ups with morals. If my posts are childish what is pirating something because one can't wait 24 hours? And if one wants to watch it now how come they aren't watching it on TV when it's on in the first place?
The irony of you telling people not to be "childish" is hilarious, if not completely absurd. Take your own advice sometime. |
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 batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
3 recommendations | reply to BF69
said by BF69:Because AMC re-runs the show a couple of hours later. I can guarantee they make more money in advertising from that 2nd showing than they would gain in sales buy offering it for sale right after the first showing.
What? People pay to watch commercials? Now that is piracy. |
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brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
2 recommendations | reply to aaronwt
said by aaronwt:I'll take the $2.99 1080P, 5.1DD download from Amazon over the free BitTorrnet any day.
I'll take the 1080P 5.1DD free BitTorrent instead. |
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 rchandraStargate Universe fanPremium
join:2000-11-09
14225-2105 | reply to Nightfall
It all goes full circle. The live distributors (TWC, Comcast, Dish, DirecTV, etc.) want to maintain their interest in video (and are loathe to give it up in favor of operating only their Internet access businesses). I do not know of course, but I would think their agreement to carry AMC/"Breaking Bad" includes that 24 hour rule. If you can watch the episode over the Internet within an hour or two of satellite distribution, what incentive do you have to subscribe to those comanies' video delivery services? The reason you want it right away is so that you can keep up with the discussion around the water cooler or coffee brewer the next day with your friends, and you dont have to eschew them because you don't want to hear spoilers (while you wait to be able to have it legally).
I'm saying I understand it, not that I like it.
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