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Re: VMedia's VBox, and how it steals from developers

Distributing applications outside the Google Play store is not a violation of the terms of service of the Google Play store, as those terms of service don't apply to people who don't use it. Doing so may be against the terms of service of individual apps, as it is for Google's apps. Most apps are legitimately available through competing sources. For example, the Amazon app store for Android features Facebook and Twitter.

The VMedia vbox would not be listed under VMedia if it were a certified device, as VMedia has simply rebranded it. It would be listed under the actual manufacturer. I'm not sure who that is.

Any use of Google's own applications on a non-certified device would indeed be an issue, but beyond that your claims are without merit.
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Those applications are not available only on Google Play. 1Mobile has them. I highly doubt Google wouldn't know about that.

The only thing VMedia is violating would be the inclusion of Google apps (the ones you listed, YouTube, Google+, etc..)

So basically, instead of "stealing from developers", they're just stealing from the big money hungry Google (not that it's ok but at least better than stealing from the single guy who makes his living on software development --- Google doesn't make any money on those apps). So, just as CyanogenMod was forced to remove Google Apps, eventually VMedia will be popular enough that the same thing will happen.

How unfortunate..

As for the ads thing with SpeedTest... you just tried the damn thing in a CanadaComputers Store. How do we know that store doesn't have a tweaked DNS on it's router to block ads?

I don't know enough about the VBox, but I highly doubt they're helping people download pirated APKs from random developers.

There are plenty of places to get Android applications other than Google Play. Amazon has their own app store for example, with Facebook, Twitter, etc. all available.

»www.amazon.com/mobile-apps/b/ref···50149011

There are others like AppsZoom (»www.appszoom.com/) as well. Here's a partial list: »www.crazyandroid.com/24-android-···le-play/

Distributing Android apps through means other than Google Play does not violate anything unless the app developer explicitly prohibits it.

got_milk, we consider the heading and the contents of your post to be slanderous. Please provide us with your name and contact information so that we can respond formally. We will also be asking the moderators to delete this thread, or at the very least change the heading.

Rednekcowboy, as much as I would like to respond to you VMedia can't be drawn into discussing its business practices and arrangements. Suffice it to say that we are waiting for got_milk to provide us with his personal information, at which point we will take the necessary steps to protect the VMedia brand.

Fat chance of him providing his info to you, if you ask me.
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As much as I agree that this topic is over the top, and the fact that he states he's a developer yet knows nothing about how apps are distributed (he figured one sole source, and that be google play), and then stated that this topic is all more or less "speculation".. i mean... it's a bullshit topic to begin with.

But, George, as much as I agree with you that this topic may be considered slanderous, or may harm your brand, I don't think sending legal letters and/or legal threat (seems to be what you are implying) is the way to go. That just leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. Even to those who would agree with you, like myself. There is enough of that bs on the net.

Rather, just give the guy a verbal bitch-slapping upside the head to say he's wrong, thus we all get to giggle and laugh out loud. The highly skilled troll who knows all about apps and development retreats into a swearing festering puff of smoke.

The insinuation of legal threats just sucks all the way around for everyone.

I know there have been a few screwballs busting your (and Vmedia's) balls in this forum. This is just another one, obviously. Call them out for what they are and just ignore it. The people in this forum are smart enough to call these people out and shut them up, similar to what hivolt stated.

Exactly, he's poked the bear and I wouldn't give you my info either so your solicitor can send me a letter.

At the same time George, you need to lighten up a bit, if you poke around the Teksavvy forum, they've been called crooks and i don't see Marc calling for anyone's head.

Not to mention the slanderous comments people make about Robellus around here EVERY SINGLE DAY.
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I've chosen to redact my post due to the legal threats presented by George Burger in this thread. I realize my post was definitely poking a bear with a very large stick, but it was meant to be observations from a technical perspective, not paragraphs of slander as it was made out to be.

I think you had some interesting points. Also, I feel when someone starts waving a lawyer around instead of addressing the arguments then they were probably hitting to close to home to be defended. GeorgeBurger has definitely dropped a few notches in my view.

Re: VMedia's VBox, and how it steals from developers

First of all thank you to the moderator.

Elwood, the difference is TekSavvy has, quite deservedly, acquired a first rate reputation in business, and has a vast store of goodwill, so that it cannot be characterized by the recent spate of difficulties, which as most of us know are not of its making. In VMedia's case we are in the early days of winning the public's trust, and from out of the gate, unlike TekSavvy as it was building its brand over the years, we have incurred the wrath of the gods. So we may have to be a bit more proactive that others.

Besides, as a lawyer by profession, hard not to be your own strongest advocate.

Thanks to everyone.

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I beg to differ. At no point did George make me feel like he was hiding anything. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree in this case.
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