 | [WIN8] Windows 8.1 available to Pre-order now Microsoft Store: quote: If you're already running Windows 8 you'll be automatically upgraded to Windows 8.1 for free on October 17.
If you're running Windows 7, pre-order Windows 8.1 now.
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 NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR kudos:1 | said by chachazz:If you're already running Windows 8 you'll be automatically upgraded to Windows 8.1 for free on October 17. What about those who do not wish to be automatically upgraded? On October 17 or any other date.
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 GlennAllenSunny with highs in the 80sPremium join:2002-11-17 Richmond, VA | I think the phrase "damned if you do, damned if you don't" probably describes it most aptly. (However, I don't plan to resist the inevitability of it all.) |
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 NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR kudos:1 |
said by GlennAllen:I don't plan to resist the inevitability of it all Me neither. But I may not wish to be automatically upgraded and even if I did, maybe not on October 17. |
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 GlennAllenSunny with highs in the 80sPremium join:2002-11-17 Richmond, VA | I would expect Automatic Updates to work as it usually does. If you have it turned on, then you'll have to turn it off and deal with updates manually until you're ready (if ever) to turn it back on. |
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 NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR kudos:1 | Is that how it's going to be updated? Through the Windows Automatic Update mechanism?
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 GlennAllenSunny with highs in the 80sPremium join:2002-11-17 Richmond, VA | If, as M$ says, it will be done automatically, then that's how I'd expect it to happen. |
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 dib22 join:2002-01-27 Kansas City, MO | reply to NOYB
said by NOYB: Is that how it's going to be updated? Through the Windows Automatic Update mechanism?
With their fascination with doing everything like apple these days, I would expect it to get updated via the app store  |
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 plencnerbPremium join:2000-09-25 Elgin, IL kudos:2 | reply to chachazz
Calm down everyone. Here is the full quote from the webpage that chachazz has referenced.
quote: If youre running Windows 8, visit the Windows Store for a free update to Windows 8.1 starting on October 17. If you're running Windows 7, your files will easily transfer. If you're running Windows Vista or earlier, qualify for the free upgrade to Windows 8.1 by purchasing Windows 8 now.
The free update to Windows 8.1 for existing Windows 8.0 users will come out of the Windows Store. No mention of Windows update from inside of control panel.
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 GlennAllenSunny with highs in the 80sPremium join:2002-11-17 Richmond, VA | That looks like a different quote entirely--nothing automatic about it. |
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 plencnerbPremium join:2000-09-25 Elgin, IL kudos:2 | Well, I see why now! 
In the attached picture, we see a screen shot of the webpage in question.
The quote that chachazz posted is in the green box, and matches exactly to what he said.
My quote is in the red box, and matches what I said.
Now, we have a bigger question. On the same page, Microsoft is saying two different things, so which one is correct? 
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 GlennAllenSunny with highs in the 80sPremium join:2002-11-17 Richmond, VA | Sounds like a Modern/Metro Start screen vs. old-fashioned Desktop issue. (M$ is bipolar?)  |
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quote: For consumers with Windows 8 devices today, Windows 8.1 will be a free update via an easy download from the Windows Store* starting on October 18th(17th in North America).
A lot more information in the Windows Blog. -- Gladiator Security Forum |
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 shearerNorthern LightsPremium join:2002-06-18 Asia | reply to chachazz
Bit confused here, is Windows 8.1 = Windows 8 SP1 ? |
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 BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium join:2000-01-13 kudos:3 | Yes. If you don't "upgrade" to 8.1 your Win 8 will lose support in two years, so yes it's a service pack, but they are not calling it a service pack, yet they said publicly 8.1 wouldn't be a service pack. Microsoft is chasing it's own tail. |
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 plencnerbPremium join:2000-09-25 Elgin, IL kudos:2 | reply to chachazz
Again, the big question I think most of us have on this site was asked by a user on the 2nd link that chachazz referenced.
said by av8rboi : September 18, 2013
Will customers running windows 8 be provided with windows 8.1 ISO?
because, in case PC crashed we would have to install windows 8 first and then windows 8.1 via store. That would be time consuming as well as cumbersome. I hope there will be other options available and not just the update via windows store.
I know there is a good number of us who post here that like to maintain install media for the operating systems we all support. In my case, I do have a purchased copy of Windows 8, and I then used the free upgrade to add media center.
If I have to re-install the OS, I have no problem doing that over and over, and adding media center back.
However, now that Windows 8.1 will be out, the only way that appears that I can get the update "for free" legally would be do follow these steps
1) Install Windows 8 Pro x64 from my purchased DVD 2) Upgrade to add Windows Media Center 3) Go to the store and upgrade to Windows 8.1
It would be a lot better, and a lot more "clean" in my mind to be able to have it be
1) Install windows 8.1 Pro x64 from DVD provided by Microsoft, as I own a legal copy of Windows 8 2) Upgrade to add Windows Media Center
While I understand that Microsoft just can't give away the actual install media for Windows 8.1, I would think there would be some way to contact Microsoft on this. Provide them your name, date / location of purchase of Windows 8, and your license key. Microsoft then takes that information, confirms that your copy is indeed registered to who you say it is, and provide the user with the full install media. That could be a link to download the ISO, or send the user a DVD or USB Stick with the install on it.
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 DKSDamn Kidney StonesPremium,ExMod 2002 join:2001-03-22 Owen Sound, ON kudos:2 | reply to chachazz
Any idea if they will offer a "3fer" family pack? |
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 NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR kudos:1 | reply to plencnerb
@Plencner
Think such a verification process would be cost prohibitive. Most people will never need to reinstall 8.1 prior to the next update/sp. So it would just be a waste.
Back in the floppy days the first disk of the qualifying OS was used to validate prior to upgrade copy install. Maybe they'll do something similar. Where 8.1 upgrade media can be obtained that uses 8.0 install media for validation.
Also in the passed with XP we used to be able to create SP "slip stream" installation media. Look it up. Maybe there will be similar capability with Windows 8.x.
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