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Re: Shaw HS 10 up another 10% True, I did site a phone only plan. But I just opened a new smart phone plan with Virgin on a BYOP basis @ $45 with 1 gig of data and (almost) unlimited calling within Canada. This phone now replaces our home land line and will be carried by my wife, who loses her work phone at the end of the year. Prices are trending down. Wind Mobile has an unlimited smartphone plan for $33 (+ $8 for voicemail). There are deals to be had in cellular, but very little in ISP.
Right now Teksavvy appears to be in chaos due to Roger's push-back. There are not a lot of viable alternatives. |
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| I guess we'll agree to disagree on cell phone rates. Everything I see when shopping out rates shows they keep going up. My $55 plan now costs $70 or $75/month on most providers. Non-Contract rates can vary because you have to negotiate them, but the cell companies are making that hard and harder. ARPU (average revenue per user) reported by the big 3 keeps going up. Which means there average customer is paying more. I think your an exception to the rule. |
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| The reason cell phone plans jumped was the 2 year contracts. Hard for the telco's to subsidize a 900$ iphone for 55$ for 2 years
What I would like to see if some cheap plans for us that buy our phones outright or do not want to upgrade. |
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| I'm not sure if you noticed but the phone plans went up more than the impact of reducing the subsidization period. They were really clever about it and in fact did raise fees.
I do agree that I would like to see more competition and advertising of non subsidized rates. I'd rather buy a phone outright and get a decent cell rate. Virgin gives you 10% off for BYOP but since the rates all jumped that stills more expensive than my current subdized plan.. lol |
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tlhIngan
join:2002-07-08
Richmond, BC
kudos:1 | reply to spock
said by spock:The reason cell phone plans jumped was the 2 year contracts. Hard for the telco's to subsidize a 900$ iphone for 55$ for 2 years
What I would like to see if some cheap plans for us that buy our phones outright or do not want to upgrade.
Those exist.
You'll note the plans that subsidize phones generally cost a lot more than regular plans. I was checking some out - get a phone on contract and the plans they let you pick from are $80+. Off contract, and you can get better ones for $30-$50, especially on deals. Of course, you cannot use those plans if you want a phone on contract.
Did the math, bought an unsubsidized phone - the extra $400 gets made up in a year by using the cheaper, better plan.
Of course, the trick is you have to know where to buy 'em - carriers rarely if ever let you pay the month-to-month rate for a phone.
And US carriers have been doing the 2 year thing for years now and subsidizing phones on plans that are cheaper and better than what we have. They're just using it as an excuse.
Think about it - when Verizon was threatening to come in, they spent tons of money claiming it'll ruin them. ANd at the same time, they ran (through their lapdog industry group the CWIA) ads saying that Canadians pay less than Americans (the top two US carriers, that is - because they know they can't match T-Mobile and Sprint's unlimited plans). So they claim on one hand Verizon will eat them alive, and on the other, that Verizon would cost more than them. I'm sure Verizon would attract hordes of customers who want to pay more.
And these are the same people who wanted to buy out Wind's spectrum the moment they were allocated it at a 10-to-1 return. Right before Wind put up the first cell tower - they wanted to buy them out.
And the same ones who killed the Industry Canada wireless calculator because it always put them at the bottom of the list - all the AWS carriers floated to the top, no matter how you arranged the requirements.
They could do it, but it means their CEO won't get his airplane or yacht or will have to give up his mansions. Can't have that, obviously. |
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said by spock:The reason cell phone plans jumped was the 2 year contracts. Hard for the telco's to subsidize a 900$ iphone for 55$ for 2 years
What I would like to see if some cheap plans for us that buy our phones outright or do not want to upgrade. Virgin has bring your own phone discounts of 10% on all plans. That's what I did -- bought a new open box smart phone on flea-bay. Finally got up the courage to kill my landline. Wife is going to carry the 'home' phone number that we've had since 1986. |
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Re: Shaw HS 10 up another 10% said by Glen T:Right now Teksavvy appears to be in chaos due to Roger's push-back. There are not a lot of viable alternatives. As much as I probably wouldn't touch a TPIA in Rogers land at the moment, I've had not problems in Shaw land with Teksavvy. I've been watching the crap they are going through out east, and it appears that for the moment Shaw is not behaving in this way. I've have Tesksavvy 25 (39.95) for about 4 - 5 months now, as a direct result of Shaw's overpricing of their services direct to consumer and am VERY happy...  |
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