| Freemen occupy cabin in Alberta and refuse to leave Alberta forestry staff have been warned to avoid a wooded area south of Grande Prairie after a land-claim dispute led to armed threats. » cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2013···521.html------------------------------------------------ these thieves need to be chased off the land now |
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| This is not a land-claim dispute, this is theft by force....
....and a surrender and retreat by the authorities.
This crap has to be aggressively jumped on or there is going to be more and more of it! |
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 AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium
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Dartmouth, NS
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Freemen........... Jail is free,,,,,, oops you even get paid in jail (soon at rates 30% less). |
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said by jaberi:Alberta forestry staff have been warned to avoid a wooded area south of Grande Prairie after a land-claim dispute led to armed threats.
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these thieves need to be chased off the land now
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 HiVoltPremium
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Toronto, ON
kudos:19 | reply to jaberi
Why isnt the police or military take action?
The longer they ignore these whackos the larger they'll become, and occupy more land.
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| said by HiVolt:Why isnt the police or military take action?
The longer they ignore these whackos the larger they'll become, and occupy more land.
Right.
It becomes like Colombia or Mexico, or the Somali pirates.
Shit, just send in the Peel Regional Police. They'll take care of it, and everyone will be happy all 'round. |
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HiVoltPremium
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Toronto, ON
kudos:19 | Yeah... I'm sure if they saw a few armored APV's roll up they'd shit their collective pants...
You'd need military as that area is pretty remote and police vehicles would not get in there...
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I will say this, while I sympathize with anyone who wishes to minimize ones contact with the leviathan and I have my doubts as to these individuals actually being 'freemen', these ones and the last guy in Calgary need to cobble up a pot and some urine so they actually have something of their own to claim.
It just doesn't work when you saunter around squatting on other peoples property, you cannot claim to be free while you infringe upon the rights of others...so buck up, buy some property and do it the right way with something that is actually yours.
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they have the goon cops in alberta, but for some reason they are shying away from the freemen....they only like to kick the sh^! out of those who are handcuffed. |
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 neochu
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Windsor, ON | said by jaberi:they have the goon cops in alberta, but for some reason they are shying away from the freemen....they only like to kick the sh^! out of those who are handcuffed.
Not worth the taxpayer money to go in with a firefight. give it some time and they will though.
Remember these kinds of individuals will torch the place they are staying in if they are provoked and cant win.
then the original owner is SOL. |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
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Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to jaberi
Of course it's worth taxpayer money to protect law-abiding citizens from hijackers like these.
I've got no problem with people buying their own land in remote areas and setting themselves up to live off the grid, but that's a far cry from what these criminals are doing.
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probabale, however they don't have to go in as bullies, but rather as officers of the law.......they have been there since may...is it hard to secure an arrest warrant for trespassing, squatting, and get them out? |
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Canada
kudos:1 | illegal firearms and threats with firearms isn't enough ? |
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Re: Freemen occupy cabin in Alberta and refuse to leave said by Guspaz:Of course it's worth taxpayer money to protect law-abiding citizens from hijackers like these.
I've got no problem with people buying their own land in remote areas and setting themselves up to live off the grid, but that's a far cry from what these criminals are doing.
Moreover, the lack of police intervention could only help encourage other "freemen" to take up similar ideas. |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
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said by jaberi:probabale, however they don't have to go in as bullies, but rather as officers of the law.......they have been there since may...is it hard to secure an arrest warrant for trespassing, squatting, and get them out?
Yes, god forbid that we should bully hijackers! Let's invite them out for tea and crumpets instead.
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| Re: Freemen occupy cabin in Alberta and refuse to leave said by youneedhelp :do you know how the natives and inuk are treated in this country Mustafa. ever been on a reserve or up north. Somebody with the name mustafa gets alot better treatment than any inuk or native
I think Attawapiskat was a fine demonstration of how the Natives treat the governing body of the country. |
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Re: Freemen occupy cabin in Alberta and refuse to leave said by Guspaz:Of course it's worth taxpayer money to protect law-abiding citizens from hijackers like these.
I've got no problem with people buying their own land in remote areas and setting themselves up to live off the grid, but that's a far cry from what these criminals are doing.
I in no way condone the activities of the "trespassers" nor am I playing devil's advocate here. To clarify, unless things have changed in Alberta in the last 20 years, the land they are occupying is Crown land. I am quite familiar with the area and I probably even know the trapper and may have even stayed in that cabin. I used to police that area as well as hunt, fish and hike, heck my family celebrated a xmas and the following New Year's Eve in a trapper's cabin.
The trapper has a registered trap-line, he purchases the rights from the Government to run traps in a certain geographical area, one of the "perks" is that he can erect so many temporary cabins to be used for shelters. The trapper can not interfere with any other lawful activity on his line by others, including hiking, camping, fishing, hunting, etc. The cabins, for the most part are vacant 75% of the year.
On the other hand there are no "squatting rights" in that area. This in itself is or can become very political. Until the Province of Alberta or their Forestry or Wildlife Ministries decide on what action to take, there will probably be little done by the R.C.M.P., this does not preclude R.C.M.P. action with regards to damage, theft, etc. to property owned by the trapper. He may have built the cabin but the ministries can tear it down at will.
Incidentally and surprisingly there is no mention of this issue in the local Grande Prairie newspaper. |
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said by BonezX:illegal firearms and threats with firearms isn't enough ? Canadian cops would much rather break into evacuated homes to harrass lawful firearm owners than against actual armed criminals. It's much less risky and it allows them to keep their stats up anyway. |
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neochu
join:2008-12-12
Windsor, ON
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said by jaberi:probabale, however they don't have to go in as bullies, but rather as officers of the law.......they have been there since may...is it hard to secure an arrest warrant for trespassing, squatting, and get them out?
Sadly these are people willing to defend their property to the death.
Anyone walking up to the property without permission will be asked to leave or shot at, police or not.
I wish people would stop comparing these incidents to the first nations. They have no relation to each other, not to mention being first nations actually means you have some sort of bloodline link to their issues.
These are just lazy @** WASPs who dont wanna follow the rules anymore for whatever reason, and have access to firearms to do it. Think of em as violent street people with no ties to anything but themselves. Many don't even follow their own rules. |
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| right, according to one of the trappers the freemen have set up a makeshift sawmill inside the canfor's forest management and are illegally chopping down trees...
one trapper says the lack of information from the authorities is frustrating for the trappers in the area, by november trapping season will be in full swing.
justice minister had informal discussions about it, but will meet up with judges and crowns in the coming months, to discuss things. |
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neochu
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Windsor, ON | said by jaberi:right, according to one of the trappers the freemen have set up a makeshift sawmill inside the canfor's forest management and are illegally chopping down trees...
one trapper says the lack of information from the authorities is frustrating for the trappers in the area, by november trapping season will be in full swing.
justice minister had informal discussions about it, but will meet up with judges and crowns in the coming months, to discuss things.
You have a lose group estimated in and around 300,000 poeple that are possibly armed. To engage a group of what will likely cause collateral damage and require something more then a police response is going to require some review of the laws. |
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 Link LoggerPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
Calgary, AB
kudos:3 | reply to neochu
said by neochu:Sadly these are people willing to defend their property to the death.
That could be arranged.
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neochu
join:2008-12-12
Windsor, ON | said by Link Logger:said by neochu:Sadly these are people willing to defend their property to the death.
That could be arranged. Blake Sadly this is where I think it is going to go if these types of event's continue.
I think Law Enforcement already knows about this. |
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join:2001-03-05
H3B
kudos:2 | reply to neochu
said by neochu:You have a lose group estimated in and around 300,000 poeple that are possibly armed. To engage a group of what will likely cause collateral damage and require something more then a police response is going to require some review of the laws.
Or a declaration of war, which would be more appropriate in this case. |
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neochu
join:2008-12-12
Windsor, ON
1 edit | said by milnoc:said by neochu:You have a lose group estimated in and around 300,000 poeple that are possibly armed. To engage a group of what will likely cause collateral damage and require something more then a police response is going to require some review of the laws.
Or a declaration of war, which would be more appropriate in this case. Unless you mean lets say... "The War on Terror" or the "War on Drugs" you cannot functionally declare war on a group thats not officially regognized by any major international alliance.
You can definitely openly declare them to be a major terrorism threat to the country and deal with them like you would any other group though.
Now with SWAT teams carrying M4 Carbines they are capable of dealing with these poeple. But it has to be minimal to save as much as they can. |
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