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Guspaz
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Robellus sues participants in wireless code hearings & Queen

So, it looks like some of the incumbent and regional carriers have filed their appeal, suing everybody who participated in the CRTC wireless, including the Queen. Well, OK, so they're actually suing the crown, but they list it officially as "Her Royal Majesty the Queen in Right of Ontario" and such, so I thought I'd have fun with that

The list of parties they're suing includes everybody who participated, from our own JF, to CIPPIC, to the PIAC and all the consumer groups, to Videotron and the other carriers who argued in favour of the code:

»www.vaxination.ca/crtc/2012-557/···2013.pdf

They did ask that the respondants pay for their costs, but my understanding is that the court granted leave to appeal without costs, so at least people like JF won't be on the hook to pay for the carriers's lawyers.

Robellus is asking for only one thing in their appeal, to strike out the second sentence of paragraph 369 of the code, which is the sentence that made the thing retroactive as of June 2015. That's all they're challenging. The argument is that the CRTC lacks the power and jurisdiction under the Telecommunications Act to enact the code retroactively.
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hmm

@videotron.ca

Will JF counter sue Bell Canada for stress and harassment? Maybe loss of enjoyment of life due to loss of sex-drive due to all the stress?



aah drool

@videotron.ca
reply to Guspaz

Participate in a CRTC proceeding and get sued.

Bell has sunk to a new low.

I don't see a warning on the CRTC website that states, "by participating in a Canadian public telecom proceeding you can and will be sued".

Bell is bitch-slapping every single Canadian and using intimidation to try and prevent future public participation by naming all those people and threatening cost awards against them.



Guspaz
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Ironically, it doesn't even matter in the long run. If the carriers' appeal succeeds, and that sentence is struck from the wireless code, eventually all contracts will fall under the code anyhow. It will just take a few years longer.
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milnoc

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As I've told JF on Twitter, this smells a lot like a SLAPP suit, which are illegal in Quebec. Even then, Bell's actions mean that EVERYONE named in the appeal now must spend time and money to fight this. You can't just ignore it.



hmm

@videotron.ca

Indeed Milnoc. Interesting claim can be made by JF here.



elwoodblues
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reply to milnoc

It was filed in Ontario, so my guess, QC laws don't apply.

Better question, why are they suing their own Lobby group? CWTA

Ontario has introduced legislation to prevent Slapp suits. but it's gone nowhere.



elwoodblues
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I sent an email to Christine Dobby over at the financial post and she thinks this :

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It seems the only party participating in the proceedings and responding to the case is the CRTC and the others are simply receiving notice of what's going on. I am keeping tabs on it and will be sure to look for whether they seek costs against any of the other respondents (I doubt they will but will keep an eye out nonetheless).

My understanding is that they included them as respondents because they all took part in the wireless code hearings but their issue is with the CRTC and the timing of implementation of the code
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hmm

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reply to elwoodblues

JF should go all the way with this. Push the buck. Then give the bill to the CRTC for encouraging the average Joe Canadian to participate in stuff that can get them sued for no reason.


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reply to Guspaz

I get them not liking the retroactive thing. I really do. If it were a change to regulations that fundamentally altered contracts retroactively that was negative to consumers, we'd all be howling mad about it, and for good reason.

Hell, I even get going to court for an appeal... but that list of respondents is completely and utterly insane.


DanteX

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wow does this shout childish or what? They hold a monopoly over our country and when they do not get their way they sue and stomp their feet like a child who doesn't get their way.

I think we should all counter sue and demand fair prices and fair treatment. Lets go a step further and break companies such as Bell up into a separate entity for each division.

They can sue me all they want for my participation in the process becuase I will not corporate with Terrorists who hold this country's communications infrastructure hostage


MaynardKrebs
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reply to Guspaz

said by Guspaz:

The list of parties they're suing includes everybody who participated, from our own the LATE JF, to CIPPIC, to the PIAC and all the consumer groups, to Videotron and the other carriers who argued in favour of the code:

Fixed it for you.


elwoodblues
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I got a response back from Michael Geist who can"t figure out why they are taking this approach either.