Sunfox
join:2003-12-14
Markham, ON | reply to magnum
Re: [Prices] Rogers is going door-to-door giving 20% discount Heh, I have dual WAN here - TSI/Rogers + Bell Fibe. Using a Zyxel ZyWALL USG 200 (fantastic router with amazing versatile features, but very expensive).
Now that I'm down to Rogers cable TV with no contract and have unlimited transfers on TSI, I'm really thinking I don't need 3 Rogers HD DVRs any more (all outright owned) and could drop to a much cheaper/more basic Fibe TV service and supplement with streaming... and end up way ahead after selling the DVRs. I've been resisting this for a few years due to how many TVs I have, but realized this fall season my viewing habits have changed, and I can live without being able to record 4 HD shows at the same time. |
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Re: [Prices] Re: Rogers is going door-to-door giving 20% discoun said by Viper359:When one of those routers go, consider building a small tiny box, running pfsense. I did it months ago, as I needed to run several static ips via openvpn, to the usa, and each static ip device would easily run 10Mbps streams. Sometimes, 5 devices at once. Hence, I needed something powerful enough to handle it. Yet to see a single consumer grade router hand more than 20-30 Mbps. If you build it right, power costs will be cheap, and cooling will be near non existent. You get the added functionality, which is helpful.
Yes, there's lots of options out there. I build all my own hardware (electronics degree). I'm sure the router will die at some point - I've had at least 5 routers die or upgraded over the years. You know, basic router, then wireless, then gigabit ports, then dual band etc.
However, my DLink DIR-655 (N300 with Gigabit ports) seems to have no trouble doing 100Mbps peak + 70Mbps sustained which is what I've seen my 25/2 Rogers connection occasionally do during a speedtest! Also the switch part of it seems to perform pretty well.Maybe a difference is I have the wireless and DHCP turned off and use my new DLink DIR-845L for the DHCP and wireless.
I just ran a test copying a 1.3GB file across the network from my old PC to my new one. I get approx. 105MB/s sustained with Task Manager showing my network card at just over 81% utilization of the Gigabit link. This with my PC linked into the DLink DIR-655 which is then uplinked to a DLink DGS-1005D gigabit switch which the other PC is plugged into. i7-950 (gen 1) @3.06GHz in the old PC and brand new Core i7-4770 @3.4GHz in the new PC. Both using onboard RealTek NICs in Asus motherboards. I used to buy Intel gigabit NICS because the built-in ones were crap. Haven't needed that these last 2 builds using Asus motherboards.
I also went through several routers and switches before I found some that performed properly - that was several years ago so I don't remember what they were but the performance was horrible (20MB/s through a gigabit switch).
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Viper359Premium
join:2006-09-17
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[Prices] Re: Rogers is going door-to-door giving 20% discount When one of those routers go, consider building a small tiny box, running pfsense. I did it months ago, as I needed to run several static ips via openvpn, to the usa, and each static ip device would easily run 10Mbps streams. Sometimes, 5 devices at once. Hence, I needed something powerful enough to handle it. Yet to see a single consumer grade router hand more than 20-30 Mbps. If you build it right, power costs will be cheap, and cooling will be near non existent. You get the added functionality, which is helpful. |
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said by vincom:since u seem to be tek savvy, why not use pfsense as it will do automatic failover
I'm a software developer and former network engineer. Thanks for the suggestion but I'd have to buy more hardware to run it on for little benefit. And don't tell me to use an old PC.
I already had the routers when I decided to bridge the 2 networks or I might have gone with a dual wan router. Before it was unplug/re-plug stuff to move the modem over. This is good enough.
I'm not kidding, I literally have nowhere to put another PC.
My new development computer has 3 monitors, 23" Asus in portrait, 27" Dell u2711 (2560x1440) landscape , 23" Asus in landscape. This takes up a lot of real estate - my entire desk.
Add in a 2nd full PC, and monitor on a desk in the same room + a table currently containing my old PC and a 19" monitor and 2 Thin Clients with 17" touch displays.
And then another full PC and monitor and desk in another room. Add 2 laptops, 1 netbook, 2 Nexus-7 tablets and an iPad. I don't need anymore hardware thanks, especially the heat they output and the electricity bill!
As it is I have to run a floor fan to push the cool air into the room in the summer as the A/C doesn't cut it in my office. In winter I'm toasty warm! This is always by far the warmest room in the house.
For the amount of time Rogers goes down - maybe 10 minutes every few months it's just not worth it. Besides, I'd like to know it's failed.
Occasionally I'll swap my dev PC over to Teksavvy to do a huge download to save my Rogers bandwidth and then I'll forget I did that until I wonder why the Internet is so slow.
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vincom
join:2009-03-06
Bolton, ON
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said by magnum :said by Stewy:said by magnum :I need 2 internet connections Nice what router are you using ? Dual Wan ? Nothing so sophisticated. It's a single network with 2 gateways. I have a DLink 655 (wireless and DHCP turned off) running the Rogers connection with the office computers set to Static IPs with it as their gateway. I have a DLink 845L running the Teksavvy connection with wireless (Primary and Guest) and DHCP enabled. My torrent box is static IP through it so I can do incoming port forwarding. All other devices such as tablets and visitors are DHCP so they go out through the Teksavvy link. Our Sony Blu-ray player is DHCP so we use the Teksavvy bandwidth for Netflix. It works great and keeps Internet traffic separated yet I can still print from any device. If Rogers goes down (my work connection) I can just swap gateways on the office PCs OR set to DHCP temporarily. since u seem to be tek savvy, why not use pfsense as it will do automatic failover |
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said by Stewy:said by magnum :I need 2 internet connections Nice what router are you using ? Dual Wan ? Nothing so sophisticated. It's a single network with 2 gateways. I have a DLink 655 (wireless and DHCP turned off) running the Rogers connection with the office computers set to Static IPs with it as their gateway.
I have a DLink 845L running the Teksavvy connection with wireless (Primary and Guest) and DHCP enabled. My torrent box is static IP through it so I can do incoming port forwarding. All other devices such as tablets and visitors are DHCP so they go out through the Teksavvy link. Our Sony Blu-ray player is DHCP so we use the Teksavvy bandwidth for Netflix.
It works great and keeps Internet traffic separated yet I can still print from any device. If Rogers goes down (my work connection) I can just swap gateways on the office PCs OR set to DHCP temporarily. |
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 StewyPremium
join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON | reply to magnum
said by magnum :I need 2 internet connections Nice what router are you using ? Dual Wan ? |
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said by Stewy:said by magnum :we were seriously considering switching to Bell Fibe although I don't think Rogers has anyway of knowing that - unless they are somehow figuring out that people you know are switching (my mother-in-law switched a couple of months ago and loves it). Magnum Rogers wouldn't be monitoring and data mining you would they ? Nothing would surprise me! |
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said by youneedhelp :call bell and order fibe tv and internnet. let them know how much you spend on rogers. and push them for discounts. the group that is dealing with potential cancels to fibe gives amazing deals. your order needs to be pending to reach this group
I need 2 internet connections as I run my software development business from my home office. I can't have outages as I use a VOIP phone and am in continuous contact with my employees who also work from home. So I have both Rogers (for my business side - 8ms ping for the VOIP and faster speeds 25/2) and Teksavvy (6M/800K w/300GB) for downloading "stuff". I can swap gateways in a few seconds if either goes down which happens.
Next year, once our son leaves for university, my wife and I are seriously considering ditching TV altogether. He's the one who has to have all the sports channels. If we were staying with TV then Fibe might be ideal but given our plans its not worth the hassle. |
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StewyPremium
join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON | reply to magnum
said by magnum :we were seriously considering switching to Bell Fibe although I don't think Rogers has anyway of knowing that - unless they are somehow figuring out that people you know are switching (my mother-in-law switched a couple of months ago and loves it). Magnum Rogers wouldn't be monitoring and data mining you would they ? |
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I asked that very question - the answer about why they are going door to door is to offer a more personal touch. As in actually meet with the customer face to face...I was shocked too!
If you did it on the iPad you just had to initial in the box. Which I didn't. We called into customer support, talked to loyalty who gave us the discounts. Got the email already showing discounts. |
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StewyPremium
join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON | reply to magnum
said by magnum :The discount is good for 12 months - no contract. Here's the question though - If they are just giving it away why are they spending all those resources going door to door. Why not simply send an email saying BTW here's a 20% discount and have a nice day ?
Did you have to sign your name to anything ? |
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call bell and order fibe tv and internnet. let them know how much you spend on rogers. and push them for discounts. the group that is dealing with potential cancels to fibe gives amazing deals. your order needs to be pending to reach this group |
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| [Prices] Rogers is going door-to-door giving 20% discount I'm in Oshawa so I don't know about other areas but last night this guy dressed in a Rogers polo shirt, shows up at the door asking for my wife (the cable is in her name). Gives me a Rogers business card. He has an iPad which I can see is logged into Roger's OASYS system and has everyone's info for the street. We still aren't sure it isn't a scam when he offers us a 20% discount on all services just for being long term customers (20 years of cable and 10+ of internet). I straight out told him "Rogers doesn't do things like that". Anyway the water heater people showing up every 2 weeks pretending to be from Enbridge has pretty much killed any trust of anyone at the door - which is what I tell him when I turn it down. He says he understands our suspicion so he'll have someone call us tomorrow to do the discount.
Anyway, given Roger track record on calling people back we called the local store - they had no idea, said he wasn't legit as far as they were concerned as the phone number he gave wasn't a 1-888. Next my wife called Rogers support who said they don't have anyone doing that!
A few minutes later I called support and the woman I talked to WAS aware of door-to-door campaign going on. Eventually I got forwarded to the Loyalty dept. where the person I talked to actually knew the door-to-door rep by name and said it WAS legit and that she could give me the 20% off the TV and 15% off the Internet + free modem rental. I'm on Express so that actually works out to better than 20% off the Internet overall. The discount is good for 12 months - no contract. Long story short, if one of these guys come to the door and offers you a discount - take it. By the way, I was unaware that Rogers has changed their policy on discounts. If you receive a promotion after Feb 12, 2013 (I believe she said) you aren't locked in unlike before where if you terminated your services you'd have to pay back the discount. That always struck me as totally one-sided.
I think maybe Rogers is realizing they need to keep long term customers happy or else they'll take their business elsewhere. In fact the rep said people always complain that only new customers get discounts so they are doing something about that. Whatever, I just saved over $500 for the coming year. And yes, we were seriously considering switching to Bell Fibe (so now it wouldn't be worth it) although I don't think Rogers has anyway of knowing that - unless they are somehow figuring out that people you know are switching (my mother-in-law switched a couple of months ago and loves it).
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