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MaynardKrebs
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Bell wants to block US broadcast networks

»www.thewirereport.ca/news/2013/0···em/27301



corster
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In a way, I kind of agree with them in the sense that the CRTC decides which American signals can come into Canada and which can't. They should either open the market and let them all in, or keep them all out.

That being said, my solution to this problem is just slightly different than Bell's



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said by MaynardKrebs:

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Paywall? Your post is useless.


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Canadian operators basically have decided that they only want to carry channels etc. if they can monetize them adequately. The US networks probably are demanding fee for carriage, since the ad money they get from Canadian viewers is negligible, so the Canadian operator says "no way".

The only way they could monetize them is either put rates up (and nobody wants that) or move them into higher tiers.

When push comes to shove, it's all about the money!


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Notice how across North America the Cable industry has not once accepted the fact the consumer is their lifeline but instead they keep finding ways to screw the consumer.

It has now been proven if the consumer can not get the content they want when they want it and in what format they want it they will find alternate means of obtaining it. The consumer could care less about pissy bitch fights regarding content rights and costs associated with it .



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April 17 2012
»www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/tel···4170768/
Bell Media, the vertically integrated TV Godzilla that already owns more than two dozen specialty channels and is on track to pick up another clutch of them if its parent company’s acquisition of Astral Media Inc. is approved, has asked the court for the right to charge viewers who want to watch its flagship broadcaster, CTV. over the air.

Really the issue is that 3 billionaires own most of Canada's media and screw the Charter of Rights with its 'freedom of communication'.
I like 'freedom of communication' as I find ways to see global content without some Canadian jerk in a custom tailored suit paying off the U.S. website to put up block notices on U.S. TV media sites. What use is this jerk owning the Canadian airing rights if he doesn't even bother to air the programs. And oh look, 5 Canadian specialty channels are airing the same particular show, over and over again.
If you don't have content to fill a specially channel without spillage from other specialty channels, then close down some channels. Bussiness101.

Then you Have various levels of Canada's government and its employees who love to pirate download U.S. content via the government servers. As we all know, is an easily obtainable product at a fair price cuts down on piracy, but blocking that content leads to an uprising against the oppressors.
»www.pirateparty.ca/2013/05/17/rc···orrents/

Canada's simultaneous substitution.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneo···titution
Where the U.S. TV channel(or just the commercials) on cableTV is censored via an override by a greedy sonafabitch in Canada for advertising profit.
So just stop carrying the U.S.A. channel then....

The new 'Aljazeera America' news website even has blocked their own specialty videos to appease the U.S. cable TV industry so people don't go 100% online for the network.

BBC Canada is a bloody joke compared to BBC America.

There is barely any new shows worth watching on TV now(classics rock), I always avoid watching the Canadian TV channel version of U.S./Britain shows due to ignorant Canadian commercials calling everyone a drunk or junky or "yea I saw this exact commercial 7 minutes ago and 12 minutes before that".

* So the short version is: 100% ban all U.S. programs from Canada. Then the Heritage Minister can listen to the screams of people as they get tired of 100% Canadian content on 3 channels. Oh boy, The Forest Ranger will get massive ratings!. And the whining from content producers in Canada will stop as they scramble to make Canadian shows about seal clubbing and colorful house painting. As they will be blocked from having U.S. programs/movies filmed in Canada.
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elwoodblues
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If you even remotely follow what goes on the US, these cable companies routinely block channels when they don't get what they want from them.

A NY cable company had an issue with Time Warner, so they blocked all their channels ..well subscribers start screaming when they can't see their favourite shows, so the channels back down.

Bell wants it both ways, they want to gouge you to deliver the channel and they want you to pay to watch that channel at the same time.

This country is so fucked when it comes to media integration, yet nobody has the balls to stand up to them.
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reply to MaynardKrebs

They want to remove US channel from their FIBE/SAT TV?


MaynardKrebs
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said by Guspaz:

said by MaynardKrebs:

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Paywall? Your post is useless.

Only to some. Check mirror.


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Mind pointing me to that mirror? I've been trying to bypass the paywall without luck for the last couple of minutes...
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Teddy Boom
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The funniest thing about that:

"We would be supportive of such a system as seen in the U.K.,"; Scott Henderson, a spokesman for BCE division Bell Media, said in an emailed response to questions.
I wonder how Bell feels about other UK policy being transferred to Canada (aka Functional Separation)?
»openmedia.ca/plan/international-···-kingdom
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dbarron

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reply to MaynardKrebs

what mirror?



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The article is now behind a paywall...

"Bell supports U.K.-style broadcast system, blocking U.S. networks"

First, the U.K. broadcast system is freaky : Every television owner pays a TV Tax for the BBC, and a part of that TV tax is distributed to other broadcasters, so they end up with fewer commercials overall.

That won't work for Canada, because we'll get the same amount of commercials due to our proximity from the US, you cannot reduce a 3-minutes commercial break to 1 minute during a live show: SuperBowl, Idol, Voice, SYTYCD, etc... Overall, Bell wants another way to make money.

In principle, blocking US Networks will only allow them to shuffle the schedule around the way they want instead of being dependent on simsub, so you won't end up watching ABC/NBC/CBS/Fox/CW commercials, but instead, you'll be stuck with canadian commercials.

For Toronto market, when a simsub cannot be applied, local advertisers take the opportunity to buy commercial spots directly from the ABC/NBC/CBS Buffalo affiliate. Remove the US networks, remove the problem, keep the money in-state... but not such a problem for cord-cutters.

End result : Canadian networks will feel responsible to buy every remaining existing daytime, primetime and latenight show, but will end up shelfing some of them for later due to their cancon requirements. You won't get to watch Good Morning America, NBC Today and CBS This Morning, or their network news.
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be_free

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I don't care cause I don't watch TV. Its all zombi-news or subliminal BS content.



rodjames
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reply to MaynardKrebs

useless.


highwire

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reply to MaynardKrebs

Canadian media companies have been piling on policy pressure to make it difficult for Canadian consumers to peruse non-Canadian sourced media. Here are two examples:

If a U.S. network airs a program at a different time than the Canadian network, the Canadian networks want to black-out the program on the U.S. network - even if the show is going to be shown three months later, e.g., non-live simultaneous substitution. Fortunately, somebody with some sense blocked that request.

Bell media was trying to get ESPN.com blocked in favor of TSN.com, sort of like how they have effectively blocked comedycentral.com in favor of the much lamer thecomedynetwork.ca already. There's pressure to block a lot more non-Canadian websites where a "Canadian equivalent" exists. They also wish to ban VPNs which almost everyone I know uses to get around geographical IP address blocking. If they can block U.S. Netflix, then we'll have no choice but to watch the program in 480x240 resolution with constant ads on their web site.


DanteX

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So all these can Con rules how do they benefit the consumer? Why is the average person so afraid to just cut the cash flow to these companies?



neochu

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said by DanteX:

So all these can Con rules how do they benefit the consumer? Why is the average person so afraid to just cut the cash flow to these companies?

Its more big media triing to abuse cancom rules to increase and create continued revinue streams.

Due to the fact that with a proper antenna 90% of the population is within at least 2 US networks via antenna the only REAL way to stop it is to make UK style TV licensing.

They can make it harder for those who get or enjoy their media via subscription though.

ITs more fear mongering much like what happened when the CTRC held hearings that may have led to a chinese style content censoring firewall for CanCon New media.


sbrook
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Can Con was of course supposed to help Canadian film and music producers get their material broadcast.

This was fine when there were lots of fully indie film makers ... (music is now a different matter) ... but now the indies are tied to these vertically integrated networks, Can Con looks like a burden to them.


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If Can Con needs to restrict foreign content in order to get their own content out then they must not be doing things right because if the viewers or listeners liked the content they would listen to it. No need to censor foreign content just to get your own content out there.



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It wasn't listeners that wouldn't watch CanCon ... it was the broadcasters didn't want it. Canadian advertisers saw it as a poor choice to put ad $ into, so ad spots around canadian programs were cheaper so it then meant that the broadcasters made cheaper and cheaper can con poorer quality programs. The original goal of Can Con was to ensure higher quality Canadian Programming. Go figure. Some of it is good quality, but a lot is poor.

Now having painted themselves into that corner, they now need to improve the ad revenue to themselves ... so they need to get rid of American programming with American ads. They can do that either by simsub ... which is a pain in the ass to do, or get rid of the US networks altogether.

I reckon we'll see local blackouts of US content before long!


MaynardKrebs
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Two words...... Functional separation.

Two more words......fuck Bell.



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said by sbrook:

I reckon we'll see local blackouts of US content before long!

*shrug*
And that would affect who exactly?
Me?
You?
Or would it affect Bell more so in the end, and force more cord cutters?


elwoodblues
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reply to MaynardKrebs

said by MaynardKrebs:

Two words...... Functional separation.

Two more words......fuck Bell.

I honestly don't see it working, you really think Robellus et al,will abide from such a seperation?

No nudge nudge wink wink at all?


elwoodblues
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said by shrugs :

said by sbrook:

I reckon we'll see local blackouts of US content before long!

*shrug*
And that would affect who exactly?
Me?
You?
Or would it affect Bell more so in the end, and force more cord cutters?

The cord cutters are young folks, technical people, but people like my parents would never cut the cord, I could feed them enough content to last the rest of their lives.
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said by elwoodblues:

The cord cutters are young folks, technical people, but people like my parents would never cut the cord, I could feed them enough content to last the rest of their lives.

And there is that as well.

The list goes on.

In the end, we should just dare Bell to block US broadcasts. It's not like we need them. The less fortunate or non-techies will just get it a day later, plus likely get more US content that they never even heard of which in turn would harm Bell more.


elwoodblues
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I get British broadcasts the same day , and my US stuff a day later and because of how I watch TV, I don't care if I get 4 day later.


lleader
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said by elwoodblues:

I get British broadcasts the same day , and my US stuff a day later and because of how I watch TV, I don't care if I get 4 day later.


The one or two shows I do watch I seem to get an hour or two BEFORE they play locally.