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youneedhelp

@bell.ca
reply to upgrade

Re: Locks on DSL modems

that was done because bell had so many calls (calls cost money) with the whole b1 bi bl crap. why they didnt get rid of that username format still amazes me to this day. b2xxxx00 would have saved them hundreds of thousands of calls over the years probably close to a million is a more accurate number



stephen d8
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Just curious, even in the case that the 2wire would lock user ID format, you should still be able to use it as a modem with a router initiating the pppoe connection, right?
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upgrade

@velcom.ca
reply to urbang33k

That's what I thought. By me asking about the lock on the username, that was my way of saying I was 95% certain of that. From my recollection, the modem in full router mode could not log into anything other than a standard b1 login because it just wouldn't let you alter the login atfter the @ symbol.

In any event, the 2wire modems were the only modems that I know of that Bell did this to. For VDSL, there shouldn't be any such software restriction, unless Bell has decided to mess with it again.


urbang33k

join:2010-02-13
Canada
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reply to stephen d8

Actually the 2wire residential modem is locked for the user id format. There is a 2wire business version that is a different firmware that allows for the business user id logins. in the material room the boxes are even clearly marked with different colored stickers for different classes of customers.

not that that matters to the op, as he was talking about VDSL modems, which the 2wires aren't.
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taraf

join:2011-05-07
Stittsville, ON
reply to wondering

said by wondering :

Didn't Bell literally lock out use on 3rd party ISP in some 2wire modems by not letting you change the part of the username after the @ symbol?

Doubtful. That would lock out some of their own customers, as the residential customers and business customers have different formats for the login ID.

More likely, the 3rd party ISP in question was using different virtual cross connects that Bell uses. For Bell's network, the VPI/VCI should be 0/35. For some other networks, it isn't.


stephen d8
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reply to wondering

I used 2wire with vif internet before, agreed I did change the firmware but It worked fine
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HiVolt
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reply to wondering

said by wondering :

Didn't Bell literally lock out use on 3rd party ISP in some 2wire modems by not letting you change the part of the username after the @ symbol?

Maybe there was a certain firmware version that did that, but I personally know someone using an ex Bell 2wire on 3rd party ISP without a problem.
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wondering

@velcom.ca
reply to HiVolt

Didn't Bell literally lock out use on 3rd party ISP in some 2wire modems by not letting you change the part of the username after the @ symbol?



stephen d8
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reply to stephen d8

Ok, I was just making sure lol.



HiVolt
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reply to stephen d8

It depends what you mean by locking... The modems do have proprietary customer Bell branded firmware that locks out a lot of features inside, things like line stats, telnet access, other diagnostic and tweaking features users might like...

But they are not locked that they will only work on Bell. You can use any Bell modem with a 3rd party ISP.
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stephen d8
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Hi, I've been reading about (v)dsl modems, and read alot about locking. Now, does Bell lock their vdsl modems now? How to they lock them if they do? Or is it like adsl modems, where the lock was only on the firmware, and still worked with other providers?

Please someone shead some light on this for me :P
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