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47717768
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Texas peace officer fatally shoot by suspect

Upton County Deputy Billy "Bubba" Kennedy, a licensed peace officer for 14 years with stops in Pecos County, Brown County and Upton County, was remembered by his friends and family Thursday morning.

»www.officer.com/news/11185921/te···31003007

This is very sad hearing a peace officer was shot, and killed

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Thanks for more info.

Another thing is majority of people hate cops. There are many good officers, but people just don't see it this way.


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Just an aside:

Is "peace officer " now the PC version of. "cop"? Makes them seem all soft and cuddly, doesn't?

Sorry to hear that he was killed. It takes a very special type of person to be a cop, to be willing to go into potental harm's way every single day, and it's a loss to us all when they are taken away from us.

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Peace Officer is a commonly used term in Texas, both in the law and in common usage.

New York and many other states also use the term in their laws.

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Yeah, but it's kind of vague. I mean, were we talking about an off-duty customs officer? Because he's a "peace officer" too.

If one means a police officer, one should say so.

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It's not a vague term in Texas.

»www.tcleose.state.tx.us/content/···rial.cfm
»www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D···1701.htm
»www.tcleose.state.tx.us/content/···ions.cfm

Things vary in different states.

For example, in many states, a Justice of the Peace is a very minor official, but they have a fair amount of power in Texas. Ignorance of that led to a confrontation after JFK's assassination when the Feds wanted to take his body back to Washington right away.


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I have always thought that "peace officer " term is a very common . To me peace officer term means an officer who is very nice, and generous who understands people, and of course wants nothing, but peace.


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I don't think that I've ever heard it used around here. I suspect I'd hear a lot of guffaws if I used it in everyday conversation.

I respect the police, but I don't share your rose-colored view of them, I'm afraid. They're subject to the same character flaws like anyone else.


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It's a term I find used more in small, laid-back communities where the emphasis is more on the "serve" than on the "protect" aspects of law enforcement -- places where the officers are more inclined to mediate conflicts between residents than try to recall what statutes to arrest someone under.
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That's odd: it connotes the opposite in my mind, likely because it replaces a common and understood term by something that sounds a little more lofty while disguising the true nature. I am naturally suspicious of that sort of thing.

Additionally, it has some sort of Orwellian tone to it. Officers of the Ministry of Peace.


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Hence demonstrating how the original meaning of a word or phrase can be completely reversed over time.

(Or perhaps, I should say useage or perception?)

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Yeah, and you don't stop.
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Cause it's 187 on an undercover cop.

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I'm sorry to be repetitive, but you are using a connotation based on your home state. Maybe you've only lived in one, I don't know.

I've lived in several states, and things can be different, especially in the south and southwest. And most especially in Texas.

In Texas, a state-issued Peace Officer certification is above and beyond a regular police officer, worthy of extra pay:

Police Officers who have a Master Peace Officer Certification will receive the following additional pay incentive.

Master Peace Officer Certification $90 per month ($1,080 annually)

»www.roundrocktexas.gov/home/inde···page=786

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More broadly:

Years ago when I lived in the neighboring Virginia cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth, the people in one city said "hot dog" and in the other city said "frankfurter", and this was a big deal to them.

You can't assume that your use of language is the same as someone else's especially in a different place.


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Constables are Peace Officers, they are a rank lower then Sheriffs. They are the people who watch over people taking out their items of a foreclosed house at the last minute or makes sure no funny business is going on during parental visits for a child. They also are used for private parties. They pretty much keep the peace in check during private matters.


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That must be it then. It's definitely more "protect" than "serve" around here, given our population density.