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dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

Unlimited broadband to go vanishes nov 1?

Was checking out the website and notice that they have new price points and they are showing that they shut down when the limit is reached (3G and wimax), whereas before the wimax was unlimited (throttled after 10GB).



»www.virginmobileusa.com/mobile-b···erview/#



»www.virginmobileusa.com/marketin···old.html

So if you are in a sprint wimax coverage area, and you want an unlimited (but throttled at 10GB) account, grab it and activate it before Nov 1... and then don't switch away from that plan and you'll be grandfathered in (assuming they do it like they always have).

Old 3G $35 plan 0.017/MB or $17.41 a gig
Old 3G $55 plan 0.011/MB or $11.26 a gig

new 3G+4GWimax $25 plan 0.016/MB or $16.38 a gig
new 3g+4GWimax $55 plan 0.009/MB or $9.22 a gig

Slight price drop for 3G users, major price increase for 4GWimax users, and the return to no unlimited plan of any sort for Virgin Mobile USA Broadband 2 Go.


compuguybna

join:2009-06-17
Nashville, TN
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I went to FREEDOMPOP.... I got a FREE Overdrive Pro with 3GB for the first month all for $34.99. Runs on the exact same network (no wimax here...but 3G is ok)

there after 2GB is 19.99 (and even for the second month, you can get this for 9.99)

No problems at all here.

Where is there any reference to the Nov 1 date? those plans have been on the VM website for at the least 2 weeks (maybe more).



dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

said by compuguybna:

Where is there any reference to the Nov 1 date? those plans have been on the VM website for at the least 2 weeks (maybe more).

On the old plan infomation.

"Available through October 31, 2013"


compuguybna

join:2009-06-17
Nashville, TN
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DUH! I didn't even see that at first!

Everyone has dogged FreedomPop (and I even did 2 months ago), but its the same service you'd get from VM or Sprint for that matter. I just use it as a hotspot for my phone, so 2GB is enough)...

said by dib22:

said by compuguybna:

Where is there any reference to the Nov 1 date? those plans have been on the VM website for at the least 2 weeks (maybe more).

On the old plan infomation.

"Available through October 31, 2013"



dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

said by compuguybna:

Everyone has dogged FreedomPop

I haven't dogged them... they have a unique plan concept. The downside to them was that the 4GWimax was metered, while on Virgin Mobile it was unlimited. VM is still technically cheaper if you do the $55 plan... but if you are not going to be using a lot of data the Freedom Pop plans might be the sweet spot money wise.


RayK

@207.140.43.x
reply to dib22

I just got off the phone with a CS rep about this. He said that after Nov. 1st, the WiMAX unlimited access GOES AWAY. No grandfather according to him . I talked to them because I just bought an Overdrive Pro 3G/4G and was looking at the data plans. I was curious exactly what the Oct. 31. deadline meant. It would have been nice to buy into the plan now and be allowed to keep it but the rep said no. Even though, I'll probably still try to sign up for it tonight and see what happens. I'll be pleasantly surprised if next month the unlimited plan is still around, but I'm not holding my breath.



dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

said by RayK :

I just got off the phone with a CS rep about this. He said that after Nov. 1st, the WiMAX unlimited access GOES AWAY. No grandfather according to him

Well the good news is the phone reps usually are misinformed about everything but taking a payment

I am *still* using an unlimited 3G plan from years ago that they haven't offered for years... if they allow this on the busy 3G network I can see no reason they won't on the unbusy 4Gwimax network... but please do update when your next cycle comes around and let us know if it is indeed grandfathered. Remember if it is grandfathered you *can't* switch to another plan or you will loose access to it.


RayK

@sbcglobal.net

Very true. I just signed up for the $35/mo 2GB 3G/Unlimited 4G service. After I posted my first message, I poked around the Virgin site and found an FAQ which said exactly opposite of what the rep told me:

»www.virginmobileusa.com/mobile-b···go/faqs/

"If you are a customer on one of these existing plans, you will be able to stay on that plan if you don't change to a different plan. If you change plans - for example, if you are on the $35 plan and move to the new $25 plan -- you will not be able to migrate back to the $35 plan. The existing Unlimited 4G WiMAX plans ($5/day, $35/month, and $55/month will be closed for further activations and migrations beginning 11/1/13."

As it happens, my home is directly in the middle of a 2-3 block dead zone for WiMAX so I can't say yet what that experience is like. I knew that before buying the Overdrive hotspot, as my main uses will be at work (to get around some corporate restrictions limiting access to email accounts) and my mother's house (which for the last year has relied upon the free but spotty Google WiFi service). Since I don't own a "smartphone", I thought the best solution for using my WiFi-only iPad 1 and 4th generation Touch, along with several laptops I have, would be to go the hotspot route. Once I figured out the proper encryption settings for my laptop, it was easy enough to configure the equipment and sign up for service on the fairly strong 3G signal I'm getting here at home.

Ray
San Jose, CA

Expand your moderator at work


compuguybna

join:2009-06-17
Nashville, TN
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reply to dib22

Freedompop sounds even better and better.

FREEDOMPOP has 2GB for $19.99 a month.....increments to 200MB for $1.99 over.

For 34.99 you get the DEVICE (overdrive pro) AND 2GB for your first month.

why would anyone else use Virgin Mobile when this cheaper plan exist?

PS> VM's overdrive pro is $71.99

If you went with FreedomPop and take into consideration the 2GB plan is $19.99,
that means you paid $15 for the hotspot.

Even the 500GB plan on FP is $3.99...



dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

2 edits

said by compuguybna:

FREEDOMPOP has 2GB for $19.99 a month.....increments to 200MB for $1.99 over.

They lowered the price? Please link me

edit: ok after fighting with their website I found the following:

Mobile:
Freedom Stick - Bolt: 39.00
Freedom Spot - 4G/3G MiFi: (refurb) 49.99
Freedom Spot Overdrive Pro: (refurb) 49.99

Basic 500MB 0.00/mo extra data 0.02/MB (20.48/GB)
Casual 2GB 17.99/mo extra data 0.01/MB (10.24/GB)
Premiere 4GB 28.99/mo extra data 0.01/MB (10.24/GB)

Home:
Freedom Hub Burst: 89.00

Fastest 10GB 18.95/mo extra data 0.007/MB (12Mbps) (7.17/GB)
Faster 10GB 14.99/mo extra data 0.007/MB (3Mbps) (7.17/GB)
Basic 5GB 9.99/mo extra data 0.007/MB (1.5Mbps) (7.71/GB)
1GB Plan 1GB 0.00/mo extra data 0.01/MB (unlisted) (10.24/GB)

and the current virgin mobile plans are:

$5/day 250MB no extra data/must reup
cost per MB: 0.02 cost per GB: 20.48
$25/month 1.5GB no extra data/must reup
cost per MB:0.16 cost per GB: 16.67
$55/month 6.0GB no extra data/must reup
cost per MB:0.009 cost per GB: 9.17

So basically once again if you use less than 6 GB a month freedompop is the better value, and if you use 6GB VM is... freedom pop would be easier for people landing between 6GB and 12GB as they would be billed per MB.

Now that Virgin Mobile unlimited is gone freedompop is definitely looking better

another edit:

ok now I find a link on their website that shows the prices are 0.015 instead of 0.01 so I am not sure of the correct prices... will update if I ever find out the correct price.


dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
reply to compuguybna

said by compuguybna:

why would anyone else use Virgin Mobile when this cheaper plan exist?

Prior to Nov 1 the wimax on virgin mobile was unlimited is why... on freedom pop it was charged overages.

Now that VM has eliminated the unlimited but throttled wimax there might not be a reason any more


compuguybna

join:2009-06-17
Nashville, TN
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reply to dib22

Re: Unlimited broadband to go vanishes nov 1?

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this offer is on the main freedompop page. Its not hidden.
Rates depend on the device. Rates shows are for the ODP.
Last month it was $34.99 with 3GB included.


dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

See that is crazy I don't get that page, the one I get says its 17.99/mo for 2GB and 0.01 overage... this one says its 19.99 for 2GB and 0.015 overage... wonder which is real?



compuguybna

join:2009-06-17
Nashville, TN

Its 19.99 for 2GB and .01/mb over. STRANGE.



fred_873483

@spcsdns.net
reply to dib22

i signed up for the $35 VM plan with unlimited wimax around the 25th Oct but when i log into my account page it says autobilling is not enabled and the option to select the $35 plan isn't there. When i call up the customer service (twice already) they claim that they set it to autobill and that i can keep the $35 plan but still nothing changes on the acct page.



dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

said by fred_873483 :

but when i log into my account page it says autobilling is not enabled and the option to select the $35 plan isn't there.

Look on the left hand side and there should be a link that says "restart plan"... just click that when you want to start it up.

It will not be listed in the list of available plans, and if you select a new plan you will never get it back.

If you do let the service expire remember to activate the old plan (by clicking "restart plan") at least once every year or the account will expire and you will loose access to the plan.


dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
reply to compuguybna

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Devices
Ok I figured it out... they have 4G only plans and 3G+4G I got their website to spit this out after clearing my cookies


fred_6576896

@spcsdns.net
reply to dib22

said by dib22:

said by fred_873483 :

but when i log into my account page it says autobilling is not enabled and the option to select the $35 plan isn't there.

Look on the left hand side and there should be a link that says "restart plan"... just click that when you want to start it up.

It will not be listed in the list of available plans, and if you select a new plan you will never get it back.

If you do let the service expire remember to activate the old plan (by clicking "restart plan") at least once every year or the account will expire and you will loose access to the plan.

thanks dib, good info.

if you can let them be dormant for 11 months and then still reactivate with the original terms, i wish i had signed up for a few more of the $35 plans.

in your experience they do throttle to 2 mbps once you go over the 10 gb on wimax?


dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

said by fred_6576896 :

in your experience they do throttle to 2 mbps once you go over the 10 gb on wimax?

That's the claim and what most comments say.

I personally have my accounts on the old unlimited for $40 plans, and they don't include wimax (even when the device supports it), so I couldn't tell ya from personal experience, sorry.


fred_7598394

@spcsdns.net

thx.



DrjayDrjay

@12.226.211.x
reply to fred_6576896

  
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GRANDFATHERED $35/mo UNLIMITED PLAN STILL WORKS!

FYI, to update for everyone. You will DEFINITELY be grandfathered in under the unlimited plans. (See attached screenshot of my account - still says "unlimited".) I've had the $35/mo unlimited plan for a few months and use about 65gb/month since I stream all day at work & all evening at home on 4G network. (People like I are the reason for their rescinding the unlimited offers, soz :-( I've always left the "auto-renewal option" switched on just in case, since I never wanna lose this plan.

Anyway, my plan just renewed yesterday & apparently, the grandfathered service itself will last at least till October 2014 (I didn't even realise they'd cut the unlimited service till today). Yeah! I'm SOOOO glad I found the plan when I did cuz I'd be paying about $900/month with any other plan from any company given the amount of streaming I do. (The cheapest plan I found with freedompop would cost me about $.007/gb x 65gb = $455/mo !)

Also, in reply to earlier queries, your speeds ARE "throttled" past the 10gb cutoff, to about 250kbps. HOWEVER, for regular internet browsing in 4G, you won't notice the difference. For Netflix streaming, it streams exactly the same, without any stops mid-viewing, though it will take a bit longer every time it needs to buffer (for example, when initially loading or fast-forwarding, etc.). Youtube must require higher & more constant speeds though, because I DO have streaming lags and buffering issues when using Youtube once I've surpassed the 10gb threshold and I try to limit the shows I watch to about 20 minutes to avoid a buffering pause which can last for several minutes. It is a MINOR inconvenience compared to what I get in return for 12-15 hours/day streaming. However, the Youtube issues at work may also be due to the location/signal, which is not as good as my service at home.

I live in the city centre in the northeast, just as fast as any wired DSL internet service! In the peripheral outskirts of the city where I work, the service is consistent at the office (interior cubicle of thick concrete building about 15 metres to nearest window) but spotty when I'm on the train (metro). I prefer to avoid 3G and have it switched off most of the time, so I notice the spotty service. If I were to leave 3G on (doesn't always switch back to 4G as soon as it beomes available), I'd probably have consistent 3G service, which is usually insufficient for Youtube, maybe ok for Netflix.

For $35/month for unlimited 4G use (I use about 65gb if 4G and almost no 3G/month) and the ability to hook up my ipod, laptop, phone & tablet to this one tiny little portable modem, I do find myself as elated as a pig in shite for this find : - ) My 3 flatmates share internet service & pay more than I do to share, whereas I have superb unlimited service.

I also have a grandfathered $25/mo VM mobile phone plan, so ALL my telephony costs amount to a mere $60/mo - I have portable unlimited SECURED (better than free hotspots or mobile phones) 4G internet everywhere I go (home/work AND travel - at hotels, beaches, etc.) for all devices - laptop, ipod, tablet, smartphone + a friend's device, unlimited SMS, 300 mins talk, unlimited 4G/3G for my Android (consumes less battery than wifi). All for $60 NET. (Most people I know pay as much for just one or 2 of the aforementioned features, just being. Yep, might as well be waeing a "Kick me" sign...or, rather "F*$K me".)

I bought an extra Overdrive Pro battery on Amazon for $10, so I even have enough juice to get through an entire day on the road or at the beach for all my devices. I ALWAYS leave it plugged in when indoors, however, and have never experienced overheating, unexpected shutdowns or similar. As with ALL internet service, you will have to restart it on rare occasion (max 1x/1-2 months). My mate has $150/month internet service and it has issues every week, having to turn it off and on again, wait an hour, etc., to fix it.) VM is da best and even their customer service is surprisingly not too rubbish!!! Notin' but luv 4 ya VMbaby ; )


compuguybna

join:2009-06-17
Nashville, TN
reply to dib22

FreedomPop Overdrive Pro with 2GB for $34.99 Free Charger too.

»www.freedompop.com/odpchargeroff···ctradius

$34.99



fred_5465456

@spcsdns.net
reply to DrjayDrjay

Re: Unlimited broadband to go vanishes nov 1?


@ DrJayDrJay

thanks for good info.

too bad they throttle back to 256k instead of the 2 mbps that i thought i saw mentioned. i wish i had bought two of these plans though.

also, in your pic there where its says "current plan - autorenewal" - mine doesn't say autorenewal yet even though i've asked them twice and provided a CC. will see what happens.



dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

said by fred_5465456 :

too bad they throttle back to 256k instead of the 2 mbps that i thought i saw mentioned. i wish i had bought two of these plans though.

What speeds are you actually getting throttled to?


fred_5874958

@spcsdns.net

said by dib22:

said by fred_5465456 :

too bad they throttle back to 256k instead of the 2 mbps that i thought i saw mentioned. i wish i had bought two of these plans though.

What speeds are you actually getting throttled to?

i'm only at 8 gb so far on the wimax side. the signal is pretty poor lately even if i have line of sight - for some reason though my old sierra 250u still shows at least 2 bars no matter where i'm at (even without LOS) so i wonder if its just the VM modem or maybe some of the towers aren't allowed for VM subscribers. fwiw, 3G signal is excellent with the VM modem.


dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

said by fred_5874958 :

the signal is pretty poor lately even if i have line of sight -

Which device do you have? If its a stick try using a USB extension cable (4 inches should work) and re-position it... I have heard of wimax and wifi harmonics happening when they are close.... if it is an overdrive try reorienting it in different positions.

Once you hit 10GB please report back your throttle speed!


fred_9556785

@spcsdns.net

thanks dib

i have the Franklin u600 modem - i tried 3 different of those usb extension cables including one fancy one that even had a power surge suppresor on it and i still couldn't get a signal anyway. if i go up on the other side of this levee (about 40-50 ft earthen type) and get what must be line of sight then attach the sierra 250 i can get a signal of -64, then i stay right there and switch to the franklin u600 i get zero signal so there must be some lower priority for VM or maybe they banned my device on 4G already? about a week ago on that side of the levee for one night i got a signal of about -68 with the VM modem and i was hitting speeds of almost 10 mbps and i downloaded about 3 gb's of content in a few hours. next night same thing iirc but before then and since then i have really have a problem getting a signal at all. i had planned on getting a nice antenna, maybe even an $80 yagi that i see advertised for wimax on ebay but maybe that's not the problem.



dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO

I do know that the internal antennas on sierras and franklins perform different on evdo so I suspect they do on wimax as well.

The bad part here is the only other device you could try is the overdrive pro (also a sierra)... keep an eye out during black friday I bet they drop them to 19.99 or lower again... that will give you something to try.

The bad side of the overdrive is that it doesn't really present itself as a 'modem' but another networked device... might make it not work in your router setup.



fred_5876756

@spcsdns.net

it has to be something with the towers or maybe they blacklisted my device already for some reason. i'm right near a large city so i'll try some different locations today.