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DanteX join:2010-09-09	DanteX to Shrugs Member 2013-Oct-15 11:47 am to Shrugs Re: Rest of Canada to finally get to pick the channels they want I think a better example of how the current system is broken is this. How many channels does Bell own? How many are network and how many are theme channels? How many times must the same shows been seen across all the channels instead of sticking to what that theme channel should be a about.
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sbrook Mod join:2001-12-14 Ottawa	sbrook Mod 2013-Oct-15 11:58 am said by DanteX: How many times must the same shows been seen across all the channels instead of sticking to what that theme channel should be a about. Like Castle on Space ... Castle is a whodunnit with a twist, not a scifi, not a fantasy. When I contacted Space about that, they said "It starts Nathan Fillion of Firefly." So I asked them if they would include "Shit My Father Says" on Space just because it stars William Shatner. (No answer to that!)
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DanteX join:2010-09-09	DanteX Member 2013-Oct-15 12:01 pm Much in the same light as turning the Discovery channel into a channel for the Less intelligibility gifted people.
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monsoon66 join:2007-01-13 Toronto, ON	monsoon66 to Shrugs Member 2013-Oct-15 12:31 pm to Shrugs As others have stated I fear that they will charge some ridiculous price per channel so that customers will be pushed towards buying packages.
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shrugs @videotron.ca	shrugs Anon 2013-Oct-15 12:38 pm said by monsoon66: As others have stated I fear that they will charge some ridiculous price per channel so that customers will be pushed towards buying packages. That is what will happen. -Service with must carry stations: ~30$ (wooo, 75 galaxy radio stations and 9 FREE pay per vue stations!) -Plus individual channels on their own: 2$. -Or, pick your own channels in a pack: Pack of 5: ~9.50$ Pack of 10: ~18.50$ Pack of 20: ~37$ Pack of 30: ~53$ Or pick Theme packs again. shrug All an illusion. You will pay for their faltering stations with crap on it anyway you look at it.
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sbrook Mod join:2001-12-14 Ottawa	sbrook to DanteX Mod 2013-Oct-15 1:29 pm to DanteX said by DanteX: Much in the same light as turning the Discovery channel into a channel for the Less intelligibility gifted people. And The Learning Channel into the Wedding Dress and Parents wanting to live life through their children channel (Honey Boo Boo, Toddlers and Tiaras,) and so on. And Arts and Entertainment into the CSI and similar Entertainment channel No Arts left! No Entertainment of a type that has significant cultural value!
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sbrook	sbrook to shrugs Mod 2013-Oct-15 1:32 pm to shrugs said by shrugs : All an illusion. You will pay for their faltering stations with crap on it anyway you look at it. No doubt about it ... although the individual channel charges will be more like this ... essentially making the whole thing PPV! Individual channels from $2 to $25 per month and some at $5 to $20 per hour.
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DanteX join:2010-09-09	DanteX Member 2013-Oct-15 1:36 pm I can see them charging 20 per hour for the Adult channels lol
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sbrook Mod join:2001-12-14 Ottawa	sbrook Mod 2013-Oct-15 1:39 pm I can see it now ... HNIC and TSN blacked out unless you pay Bell or Rogers 15 per hour. Same for Baseball.
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xtachx join:2005-11-19 canada	xtachx to DanteX Member 2013-Oct-16 2:19 am to DanteX said by DanteX: I can see them charging 20 per hour for the Adult channels lol I can see these channels disappearing soon after. The "adult entertainment" scene is doing quite well online and doesnt need a few "channels" at 20/hour
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Ian1 Premium Member join:2002-06-18 ON	Ian1 to Me Myself Premium Member 2013-Oct-16 8:22 am to Me Myself said by Me Myself : I'd rather just like to pick the TV shows I'd want to watch over picking a channel. ^^This. It's not "bundling" or Al La Carte that will be the issue a couple years from now, it's the notion of there being channels at all. And this is what terrifies companies like Bell and Rogers. Pretty soon more people will cut the cord. T.V.? Netflix or something similar. You guys with the wires? Just give me the internet connection, I'll find the content myself...
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Me Myself @videotron.ca	Me Myself Anon 2013-Oct-16 11:08 am said by Ian1: said by Me Myself : I'd rather just like to pick the TV shows I'd want to watch over picking a channel. ^^This. It's not "bundling" or Al La Carte that will be the issue a couple years from now, it's the notion of there being channels at all. And this is what terrifies companies like Bell and Rogers. Pretty soon more people will cut the cord. T.V.? Netflix or something similar. You guys with the wires? Just give me the internet connection, I'll find the content myself... Agreed. Give it another 5-10 years and this will be another fight. But Harpers copyright law sort of guarantee's their (both Canadian and American) profit and business model. Does it not? Did you see this one? »Walking Dead may go bye bye Seems AMC is trying to strong-arm Telus.
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Ian1 Premium Member join:2002-06-18 ON	Ian1 Premium Member 2013-Oct-16 11:30 am said by Me Myself : Did you see this one? »Walking Dead may go bye bye It won't go bye-bye. It means we'll get it ad-free by torrent or other means.
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The Geezer Premium Member join:2004-12-28 43.3Á	The Geezer to Shrugs Premium Member 2013-Oct-16 2:09 pm to Shrugs Nobody has mentioned A&E. Back in the day A&E used to be a classy channel where you could watch shows that actually made you think. Now all they offer is mindless, brain dead crap like "Storage Wars" and the like. What is going on?
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agreed @videotron.ca	agreed Anon 2013-Oct-16 2:54 pm said by The Geezer: Nobody has mentioned A&E. Back in the day A&E used to be a classy channel where you could watch shows that actually made you think. Now all they offer is mindless, brain dead crap like "Storage Wars" and the like. What is going on? Yep. Here in QC, where I already have a-la-carte, I tossed A&E. It's no longer what it was. Only good if you have a bad case of insomnia and enjoy repeat after repeat.
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hmm @videotron.ca	hmm to Ian1 Anon 2013-Oct-16 4:05 pm to Ian1 Someone should give George Burger a shake and see what his take is on this. Would be interesting to see his view on it as someone already trying to please the Ontario market with a-la-carte.
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AsherN Premium Member join:2010-08-23 Thornhill, ON	AsherN to The Geezer Premium Member 2013-Oct-16 4:21 pm to The Geezer said by The Geezer: Nobody has mentioned A&E. Back in the day A&E used to be a classy channel where you could watch shows that actually made you think. Now all they offer is mindless, brain dead crap like "Storage Wars" and the like. What is going on? What's going on is that the masses don't want to think. They want mindless crap. In order to survive, the networks have to show that
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milnoc join:2001-03-05 Ottawa	milnoc to sbrook Member 2013-Oct-16 4:25 pm to sbrook said by sbrook: And The Learning Channel into the Wedding Dress and Parents wanting to live life through their children channel (Honey Boo Boo, Toddlers and Tiaras,) and so on. TLC used to be fun when they had shows like Junkyard Wars where you actually learned something and were entertained at the same time. Today, it's completely unrecognizable. I'm so glad I cut the cord.
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JBear join:2005-02-24 canada	JBear to Shrugs Member 2013-Oct-17 3:43 pm to Shrugs Are most shows online now? Not through pirating but by the actual channel's website? The only reason I haven't cut the cord is because of hockey. I'd pay $50 to watch sports on Sportsnet and TSN. HNIC you can watch online or OTA.
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I_H8_Spam join:2004-03-10 St Catharines, ON	I_H8_Spam to spock8 Member 2013-Oct-17 4:15 pm to spock8 said by spock8: As much as I think this is great the government is missing the big picture. How about address the gouging done by the financial sector. Big Banks with their massive fees to have the privilege of holding your money for you. Credit card company with their monthly #ss $%ck %19.99 rates. Credit card interest is only charges after the grace period, if you are paying CC interest you should consider taking some financial planning lessons. All my credit cards are paid on time in full, should I have the desire to extend a payment over some time I have options for low interest short term credit.
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I_H8_Spam	I_H8_Spam to AsherN Member 2013-Oct-17 4:19 pm to AsherN said by AsherN: I have Fibe "Better" pack. 253 channels for $73/month. Unless a-la-carte comes in at less than $0.29 per channel, prices will increase. Of those 253 channels, how many are watched? I can consolidate my household into maybe 30 channels a la carte that we watch, the rest are of no interest or replay other channels. said by JBear: Are most shows online now? Not through pirating but by the actual channel's website? The only reason I haven't cut the cord is because of hockey. I'd pay $50 to watch sports on Sportsnet and TSN. HNIC you can watch online or OTA. NHL Gamecenter, if your internet capacity can handle it for 19.00/month it is essentially center ice +.
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Guspaz Guspaz MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC	Guspaz MVM 2013-Oct-17 5:58 pm You won't save much doing that. 30 a-la-carte is $55 with Videotron (I presume Bell is similar), plus $9 for the terminal, plus 0.5% LPIF, plus tax, comes out to roughly $74 after tax I think.
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I_H8_Spam join:2004-03-10 St Catharines, ON	I_H8_Spam Member 2013-Oct-17 7:14 pm said by Guspaz: You won't save much doing that. 30 a-la-carte is $55 with Videotron (I presume Bell is similar), plus $9 for the terminal, plus 0.5% LPIF, plus tax, comes out to roughly $74 after tax I think. No but I wouldn't need 30 I OTA right now all the locals that are required carry on cable. So OTA: CBC, CTV, Global, CHCH, City, PBS, Fox, ABC, NBC. CW, CBS. Move to a more dedicated OTA setup I may get Rochester and Erie. That leaves the specialties I would like, avoiding channels I really could care less about.
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JBear join:2005-02-24 canada	JBear to I_H8_Spam Member 2013-Oct-18 11:33 am to I_H8_Spam I know there are workarounds but Gamecenter is local blackouts right? And can specialty events such as Olympics/Super Bowl/Grey Cup can be streamed from the internet?
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Guspaz Guspaz MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC	Guspaz to I_H8_Spam MVM 2013-Oct-18 11:39 am to I_H8_Spam Most of those OTA channels are part of the basic package, so that's not changing what you select as the extras.
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UssjTrunks join:2011-02-25	UssjTrunks to DanteX Member 2013-Oct-18 9:25 pm to DanteX said by DanteX: Much in the same light as turning the Discovery channel into a channel for the Less intelligibility gifted people. That is the worst. When I cancelled cable about two years ago, the Discovery Channel had almost zero educational programming. They had like 4-5 shows about auctioning, 4-5 shows about some rednecks, and 4-5 shows about trucking or other types of vehicle operation. I guess you need to order Discovery Science now to get the educational programming. Bunch of scammers.
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Gone Premium Member join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON	Gone to Shrugs Premium Member 2013-Oct-18 9:38 pm to Shrugs It's going to be interesting to see what happens with the channels that have carriage agreements with the BDUs that specifically prohibit the channel not being bundled with anything else (Fox News is one specific one I can think of) or how Cancon is going to work if someone wants to fill up their pick-and-pay selection with a bunch of direct American channels. I remember back in the days of Look TV they were pick-and-pay right from the get-go, and the requirement was that for every American channel you picked (like CNN or A&E) you had to pick a Canadian one to go with it. I wonder if that still applies?
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monsoon66 join:2007-01-13 Toronto, ON	monsoon66 to Shrugs Member 2013-Oct-19 12:59 am to Shrugs I was once told by someone that worked for a telco that the sports channels are the big cash cows for cable companies. That is why you usually see them spread out over various packages or on the more higher tiers. I bet those would probably have the highest prices in an a la carte offering. As for other cable channels I agree that most of them are useless. Discovery, TLC, History, A&E, Spike, etc just have the same shitty marathons everyday.
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Guspaz Guspaz MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC	Guspaz to Gone MVM 2013-Oct-19 1:14 am to Gone said by Gone: or how Cancon is going to work if someone wants to fill up their pick-and-pay selection with a bunch of direct American channels. I remember back in the days of Look TV they were pick-and-pay right from the get-go, and the requirement was that for every American channel you picked (like CNN or A&E) you had to pick a Canadian one to go with it. I wonder if that still applies? Yes. Videotron lets you pick and choose, you can even change your channels each month from free right on your terminal... but your selected channels must not violate cancon.
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