 Darkflight4G Stitch626
join:2001-03-03
Rowland Heights, CA | reply to DelphiaSuckz
Re: And now we know the rest of the story I've heard all these complaints from users, and I'm thinking I'm screwd if I move back to LA. (My parents are 'forced' into Adelphia). Curiosity though, if I remember correctly, didnt Adelphia spin off ABS intentionally with plans to fail. I remember reading that this was their way of 'debt' reduction or something like that. (I think it was mentioned here a couple months before the SPinoff).
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I'm screwd if I move back to LA. (My parents are 'forced' into Adelphia)...didnt Adelphia spin off ABS intentionally with plans to fail.
IF true it is the only thing Adelphia has succeeded at doing right.
Overall, the LA area has lots of choices of broadband between DSL and cable. Hope your specific area is one of them.
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djrobsd
join:2002-01-24
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| Adelphia will just get bought out if they can't .. Let's get real guys.. They're a cable company. They're not going any where. They have a wire that goes straight to your house, which is something most companies can't say.. They're not just going to abandon that wire, or as they call it in the telecom business, "the last mile".. Someone else will buy them if they continue to struggle.
Honestly, Adelphia is trying really hard to win their customers... In my area alone, my modem has gotten so fast that it's almost back to @HOME speeds, with the exception of upload cap @128k, and my guess with DOCSIS 2.0 is they will offer tiered service.
Also, they are trying to make more money from the customer by offering enticing packages. For $99 a month, now I get digital cable, my cable modem, and ALL the premiums, HBO, Showtime, the works.. Now normally a cable company will charge like $70 to $80 for all those channels, but I am getting them all, and the modem for $99.
My old bill was $55.. So that's $45 more in revenue that adelphia is now collecting as a result of offering that good package to a loyal customer.. Smart business, when you give your customers an offer they can't refuse, they will go for it.. Normally I wouldn't even have TV at all, just data.
So, folks, I can't really bash adelphia any more.. They are getting better.. Now, if the installer shows up at 3pm on Monday, and has my cable modem working within 2 hours at my new apartment my faith in Adelphia will only grow stronger (I'm moving on monday!) |
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| Who ABS Really Is Adelphia Business Solutions IS NOT a cable company. They are a CLEC which was officially once part of Adelphia Communications. They were officially "spun off" (meaning "let go from") from Adelphia Communications effective Jan 1, 2002. They are on their own now. This is a company which has lost $500+ million every year since it's inception in 1997 and borrowed this amount from Adelphia Communications every year to balance their financial sheet. This loss was primarily due to expansion, which many companies have had problems with in recent years.
Similar Chapter 11 CLEC filings have occurred with McLeod, XO Communications, MPower Communications, etc...
Ironically during the Chapter 11 interim ABS will borrow $135 million from Adelphia Communications. It's all "in the family"!
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 cbyrdWhere's The Any Key?
join:2001-07-11
Murfreesboro, NC | The thing that concerns me is that Adelphia currently uses ABS equipment and fiber as part of it's backbone. That was my original question. According to the DNS records, ABS owns much of the equipment on that backbone. Has Adelphia purchased it (or did they own it all along)? If not, what is going to happen to Adelphia's Powerlink customers? I now they're not going to go away, but if Adelphia does not (or is not allowed) to purchase those assets, will an already bad situation with regards to Powerlink service get worse?
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Re: Adelphia will just get bought out if they can't .. Our Company uses ABS with a T-1 line. We have been satisfied with there service and are getting around 99% uptime. THhe speeds have been great, as well. On top of that, the prices have are very affordable , and support friendly and knowledgable. I hope they stick around , so we do not have to go with MCI or Bell South T's that are 75%-150% more costly. |
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 sadowskiI Am My Own DoppelgangerPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-14
Buffalo, NY | reply to djrobsd
A used car salesman will make a seemingly great offer too but go back when the rot starts showing and see what happens.
You are at least in the short-term lucky that in your area they bought up an existing facility and didn't do it themselves on the cheap, but wait till they oversell it or it just ages or breaks and needs work. |
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Adelphia/ABS Transport Next Excuse,
You're correct, Adelphia uses ABS (as well as others) for transport. Since Adelphia and ABS are owned by the same family, even though they are not legally affiliated any longer, I would see no change in the arrangement. The "spin off" of ABS from the parent was a strategic move to allow Adelphia Communications to not lose any more money on their business which continually does not make a profit. However, if ABS went belly up in a significant way or if they were to be purchased by another company (not likely at this point), then Adelphia Communications may have to find alternative arrangements for transport if ABS no longer exists or if it's purchased by a company and their arrangements are not acceptable to Adelphia Communications.
I wouldn't fret too much, there plenty of capacity out there for transport with many hungry providers more than willing to provide it. In fact, if backbone routes are changed to other carriers, it may actually improve the situation, especially in the western US. |
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