justin..needs sleep Mod join:1999-05-28 2031 |
to Pacomartin
Re: [Electrical] price per KWH for elctric.peak is 3pm to 11pm Monday to Friday fml as they say. |
|
mityfowl Premium Member join:2000-11-06 Dallas, TX |
to jchambers28
That was easy
So $.50 per kWk |
|
JoelC707 Premium Member join:2002-07-09 Lanett, AL |
to mityfowl
said by mityfowl:Maybe its me but I can't figure out the price per kWh here. Grab one of your bills, take your bill total (minus any late charges or other non-power related fees, if any) and divide it by the kWh used. My most recent bill is $490.83 and the kWh used was 4786. 490.83/4788 = 0.102555. |
|
|
02778712 (banned)
Member
2013-Oct-28 9:34 am
said by JoelC707:said by mityfowl:Maybe its me but I can't figure out the price per kWh here. Grab one of your bills, take your bill total (minus any late charges or other non-power related fees, if any) and divide it by the kWh used. My most recent bill is $490.83 and the kWh used was 4786. 490.83/4788 = 0.102555. Wow that's a %^$& ton of power used. Even with 2,600 sq. ft. of house we're lucky if we get up to 1,750 kWh's a month. I hope you own a mansion. |
|
JoelC707 Premium Member join:2002-07-09 Lanett, AL |
JoelC707
Premium Member
2013-Oct-28 9:48 am
Oh yeah you ain't kidding. It's a ~30x80 double wide (fairly new, not sure exact year off top of my head) but we also have lots of power using toys. There's 6 desktop computers in the house, 3 laptops, and 5 servers. Most of that (around 2000 kWh) is the 5 servers and the cooling for them cause it runs 24/7. We've also got various outdoor tools (air compressors - most small 120v but one larger 240v, table saw, large fans, welders, etc.) that help add to it as well. If we had just the house and the desktops/laptops to worry about, we would probably get to no more than about 2000 kWh a month. With it getting cooler, the server cooling hasn't had to run as much, plus I've got newer, more efficient servers on the way (should be delivered tomorrow according to UPS) that will help with that. The more efficient servers should help directly with lower power usage but also hopefully lower heat output. Based on my estimated power savings, they'll have paid for themselves in lowered power bills in about 14 months. A win-win in my book |
|
|
to justin
said by justin:peak is 3pm to 11pm Monday to Friday I calculate your peak usage as an average of 783 Watts per hour. That is basically an old refrigerator and some lights. Just for that peak time you pay $140.47 . Al Gore was criticized for using 221 mWh for his home and home office in 2006, while at the same time calling for people to reduce electricity usage in their homes. He was paying over US$16,000 per year. So in Australia his electric would be a minimum of $70,000 for the year. Good thing he makes $100K plus expenses for a speech. During this speech he tells you to conserve energy. |
|
|
to jchambers28
.0442 distribution .0918 energy
muni... im looking at going solar with Solarcity.com heard nothing but good things so far. |
|
Phroz join:2005-11-23 Lewiston, ME |
to jchambers28
Seeing some of these totals definitely makes me feel a lot better about my own...
Last month I used 370 KWH at a total cost of $53.23.
Delivery charges $9.36 for first 100 KWH 0.068920 per KWH over 100
Supply charges 0.068260 per KWH |
|
dennismurphyPut me on hold? I'll put YOU on hold Premium Member join:2002-11-19 Parsippany, NJ |
to jchambers28
JCP&L (Just Can't Power the Lights) here in NJ ...
Customer charge: $2.20 Delivery charge: 1,961 kWh @ 0.038327 ($75.16) Generation charge (using Systrum Energy): 1,961 kWh @ 0.086800 ($170.21) == $247.57
Now, if I used JCP&L's supply, the generation charge would have been: 1,961 kWh @ 0.10753697 ($210.88)
So, by switching to Systrum for my supply, I saved $40.67 this month. No contract, no fees, no worries, no BS. Filled out one form a year ago and have been saving ever since! |
|
|
But what is your cost per KWH including all taxes, fees and other BS charges? That is the only effective way of determining cost per KWH. In other words what is your bottom line. |
|
|
to jchambers28
Last month (Hookup Bill):
Membership Application: $5.00 (our utility is a CO-OP) Meter Activation: $30.00
Customer Charge: $9.37 Electric @ $0.071370 x 113KW: $8.06 TVA Fuel Adjustment: $0.021020 x 113KW: $2.38
So for a month where i didn't just hook up, $19.81 for 113KW. 9.2c per kw of dynamic charges, and the $9.37 static customer service fee. |
|
dennismurphyPut me on hold? I'll put YOU on hold Premium Member join:2002-11-19 Parsippany, NJ 1 edit |
to Jack_in_VA
said by Jack_in_VA:But what is your cost per KWH including all taxes, fees and other BS charges? That is the only effective way of determining cost per KWH. In other words what is your bottom line. Agreed! That is, surprisingly, the entirety of my bill. So, since I'm using Systrum as my supplier, I get: $247.57/1961 = $0.126/kWh Or, if I stuck with the incumbent JCP&L, it would've been: $288.24/1961 = $0.147/kWh $0.021/kWh savings for no work on my part ... nice. |
|
|
to Jack_in_VA
said by Jack_in_VA:But what is your cost per KWH including all taxes, fees and other BS charges? That is the only effective way of determining cost per KWH. In other words what is your bottom line. You do have to remove the "customer charge" as it will give you distorted cost per kWh. For instance in our two accounts are as follows: Customer Charge $14.17 per account (1) $209.60 @ 1,791 kWh (2) $19.48 @ 35 kWh The second account is almost entirely "customer charge". |
|
|
to Jack_in_VA
Good thought there forgot to add the rest of charges to mine... Customer Charge $6 Energy Conservation Charge .30 distro charge .0442 Energy Charge .0918 Matter of fact I think it's cheaper to run a natural gas generator for my power |
|
tkdslr join:2004-04-24 Pompano Beach, FL |
to leibold
said by leibold:Usage on the latest bill was 984kWh for $249.36 or just over 25c per kWh You need to shutdown some of those number crunching pc's. I use a win 7, a8 laptop tied to a 24" lcd monitor for my daily needs.. |
|
tkdslr |
to 54067323
Jack retired from the Public Counsel position back in 2003. What has kept FPL in check were some wise PSC members. But all those people have been replaced by the Republican legislature/Governor. The only thing holding them in check is the next election cycle. |
|
54067323 (banned) join:2012-09-25 Tuscaloosa, AL |
54067323 (banned)
Member
2013-Nov-2 8:54 am
said by tkdslr:Jack retired from the Public Counsel position back in 2003. Good for him but not so good for the customers of FP&L... |
|
|
to foo11223344
Con Ed here in NYC. Average here with all included in is $0.29 per kWhr. One of the highest in the nation. These bastards are asking for an increase as well. Interesting to note, that I subsidize all of the commercial buildings in Manhattan, who pay an average of about $0.19. Also, if you own a residential apartment building in NYC, you can buy electricity for $0.19; sub-meter your tenants; and charge them $0.29 and pocket the rest. I subsidize them too. |
|
|
chris tofer
Anon
2013-Nov-2 3:17 pm
wow cant believe your peak hydro rates are in the evening? ours are in the daytime ie 7 am to 7 pm, after that we can cook, do the laundry, use the dish washer,ie any thing that uses heavy hydro we are ok we use non peak rates after 7. and plus this is canada. eh |
|
fartness (banned)Donald Trump 2016 join:2003-03-25 Look Outside |
to jchambers28
I paid $62.70 for 398kwh including all fees, etc. 15 cents a watt seems high considering my location and the abundance of nuclear power plants around me. Don't forget the $1 surcharge to send me my bill, regardless of it being paper or electronic!! What a crock.
This does not factor in gas. I paid $17.16 just to have it delivered to my house, even though I barely used any (only hot water, which doesn't use much). I didn't have the heat on last month since it was warm enough.
I think they also de-regulated electricity in NY. I always get people going door to door trying to sell me their electricity. Doesn't sound any cheaper. |
|
|
|
to whizkid3
said by whizkid3:Average here with all included in is $0.29 per kWhr. One of the highest in the nation. Not sure why you should pay that much in NYC as it is usually $0.12 in Pennsylvania. |
|
|
to jchambers28
My regulated rate per kWh is $09.82 with Appalachian Power (American Electric Power) |
|
|
to jchambers28
$.18 total on long island New York. (LIPA) we are still paying for the greed of LILCO, which could have had a nice, cheap nuclear power plant,(shoreham nuclear power plant) but decided to cut costs on that well beyond safe means, (forged weld x-rays, diesel generators with crankshafts that break constantly etc.) and were forced to dismantle it. also, basically, Yankees are paying much more than the Confederate states, what's up with that?? |
|
|
said by iknow_t:$.18 total on long island New York. (LIPA) $0.18 does not include the pilots, taxes, or surcharges. Also on LI, my latest bill comes to $0.21/kWh all-in. My previous three bills were all within the range $0.21/kWh-$0.22/kWh, all-in. Delivery charges: $0.0857/kWh for the first 525 kWh, $0.0900 for rest. That cutoff changes with every billing cycle. Power supply is $0.087/kWh. Efficiency/renewables is $0.006246/kWh. |
|
|
to Smokey99
said by Smokey99:My regulated rate per kWh is $09.82 with Appalachian Power (American Electric Power) I think you mean 9.82 cents per kWh. According to the federal government these states are the only ones that average less than 10 cents per kWh for residential electricity. Washington 8.93 West Virginia 9.72 Louisiana 9.72 Kentucky 9.87 Oklahoma 9.91 Arkansas 9.97 Washington State has nuclear power plants. Hawaii @ 36.79 cents per kWh is the highest state average, followed very closely by NYC. |
|
mityfowl Premium Member join:2000-11-06 Dallas, TX 1 edit |
mityfowl
Premium Member
2013-Nov-3 12:42 pm
said by Pacomartin:said by Smokey99:My regulated rate per kWh is $09.82 with Appalachian Power (American Electric Power) I think you mean 9.82 cents per kWh. According to the federal government these states are the only ones that average less than 10 cents per kWh for residential electricity. Washington 8.93 West Virginia 9.72 Louisiana 9.72 Kentucky 9.87 Oklahoma 9.91 Arkansas 9.97 Washington State has nuclear power plants. Hawaii @ 36.79 cents per kWh is the highest state average, followed very closely by NYC. I think those rates are inflated. I'm at my fathers house in Illinois and could sign up for fixed 12 months $.0539. In Texas I pay 12 month fixed $.081. Illinois: » www.chooseenergy.com/ele ··· odP00AKATexas: » powertochoose.com/ |
|
|
said by mityfowl:I think those rates are inflated.
I'm at my fathers house in Illinois and could sign up for fixed 12 months $.0539. In Texas I pay 12 month fixed $.081. In state's where you can choose your supplier, they are only talking about the "generation" of electricity. You still have to have that energy "distributed" to your home. The second part you cannot choose because only one company can own the wires, cables, and meters coming into your home. In PA we pay 7.81¢ per kWh for electricity to be generated, and another 3.064¢ per kWh to be distributed. In addition a Customer Charge & System Improvement Charge and tax adjustment of $14.88. You can opt to pay much more for generation if you want it to come from wind or solar. You are paying to encourage the industry. The numbers you are quoting for Illinois are for generation only. The TX number may possibly include generation and distribution in a remote area, but it couldn't be the average for the state including the large cities. |
|
fartness (banned)Donald Trump 2016 join:2003-03-25 Look Outside |
to jchambers28
I still want to know why I am paying 15 cents a kwh with at least three nuclear plants within an 80 mile radius from me, plus Niagara Falls hydro. It all probably goes downstate since they wanted to build that big power line 8 or 10 years ago that got shot down. |
|
mityfowl Premium Member join:2000-11-06 Dallas, TX |
to Pacomartin
said by Pacomartin:said by mityfowl:I think those rates are inflated.
I'm at my fathers house in Illinois and could sign up for fixed 12 months $.0539. In Texas I pay 12 month fixed $.081. In state's where you can choose your supplier, they are only talking about the "generation" of electricity. You still have to have that energy "distributed" to your home. The second part you cannot choose because only one company can own the wires, cables, and meters coming into your home. In PA we pay 7.81¢ per kWh for electricity to be generated, and another 3.064¢ per kWh to be distributed. In addition a Customer Charge & System Improvement Charge and tax adjustment of $14.88. You can opt to pay much more for generation if you want it to come from wind or solar. You are paying to encourage the industry. The numbers you are quoting for Illinois are for generation only. The TX number may possibly include generation and distribution in a remote area, but it couldn't be the average for the state including the large cities. I live in the city of Dallas and that price includes everything. Some people might consider Dallas rural. |
|
SparkChaser Premium Member join:2000-06-06 Downingtown, PA |
to Pacomartin
@pacomartin, do you have PECO. MetEd or PPL in Bethlehem
PECO here and cost about the same. A little under 12 cents, bottom line. |
|