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antdude
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YouTube's comments now require Google Plus G+).

I noticed this recently and quite (piss/annoy)ed off as well. »videosift.com/video/Guy-bashes-o···t-system (cussing a lot)

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEWR2-zcAtM


Ugh!


dib22

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HarryH3
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reply to antdude
Google wants to be able to track everyone on the planet.


mackey
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I hate to break it to you, but you do not need a Google+ account for them to track you. They're tracking everyone whether or not they have a Google+ account.

/M


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Well, as I do not have a G+ account (or Facebook either for that matter), it looks like I will never again comment on a youtube video.

Looking through the new "comment moderation tools" one cannot help but wonder how long it will be before they add a "force showing real name instead of username" option, completely silently to the user making the comment of course and retroactive to all comments already on the page.

/M


beck
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reply to antdude
You can't rate or comment on Android apps in the Google app store without Google +. I hate that. Now Youtube. sigh.
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antdude
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said by beck:

You can't rate or comment on Android apps in the Google app store without Google +. I hate that. Now Youtube. sigh.

And soon everything!


siljaline
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reply to antdude
Google Play has required Google + accounts to rate apps for a good while.


siljaline
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reply to dib22
The gripes & complaints have not gone unnoticed
»venturebeat.com/2013/11/08/youtu···a-video/


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My only gripe is that Google have not allowed me to keep my G+ and YouTube personnas separate. Sure, years ago, probably not too long after the acquisition, I took advantage of linking my YT and Google credentials. A related gripe is that I had to create a basically useless Page, which took me some minutes to "turn the volume down on" everything in its profile (no notifications, no commenting on my Page, etc.).

Otherwise I really like G+ (not quite love it). I participate in it daily. But I quite understand the particularly irritated people who, all they want to do is leave a comment on a video, and all the sudden they're faced with creating yet another (linked) entity, for which, if they want to remain pretty much as before, they must spend inordinate amounts of time "twisting knobs" on some configuration pages.

I wouldn't doubt if we see hundreds of thousands of YT abandonments over this, maybe even millions, and not balanced by a whole lot of people flocking to YT because they think it's better this way.

A far more personally irritating behavior which has been added in say the past month or two is changing the display from "About" to "Sharing" when a video finishes playing. It's easy to defeat, just toggle JavaScript off after it starts playing, and you're good-to-go. Still, one of these days I may get motivated enough to write some userscript to remedy this.
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I like the bug it has seemed to cause since the change. A person now can leave a comment on a video the length of a good size novel lol

I'm seeing many pages being spammed with this flaw.
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siljaline
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Forced Google Plus integration on YouTube backfires, petition hits 112,000
quote:
Google's war on anonymity during its involvement in NSA controversy has imploded as its move to force YouTube commenters to use Google Plus - and its unwanted "real name" policy - has backfired.
»www.zdnet.com/forced-google-plus···0023196/

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La Luna
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reply to beck
said by beck:

You can't rate or comment on Android apps in the Google app store without Google +. I hate that. Now Youtube. sigh.

Huh? I rate apps on Google play store with my Google+ account disabled and hidden. I get listed as "A Google User". Is that not what you're talking about?


La Luna
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i can't even imagine why anyone would want to bother commenting on youtube videos. I don't even read or pay attention to them. Most of them are comments posted by idiots.


beck
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reply to La Luna
You have to have a google + account to comment/rate apps at all. I don't have a google + account. So, can't rate or comment.
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said by La Luna:

i can't even imagine why anyone would want to bother commenting on youtube videos. I don't even read or pay attention to them. Most of them are comments posted by idiots.

It really depends on the type of video.

I frequently watch videos on YouTube of a more technical nature, and there's usually a lot of constructive comments to these videos.


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reply to antdude
Some people (I'm not one of them) love G+. I hate it with a passion. I dropped it once when they forced the Play store feedback be hooked to real names, G+ accounts. I relented because I really wanted to praise some app developers and chide others. Now YouTube? WTF? If I weren'y tied so much into Android I'd drop Google completely. There's no way in hell I'm going to iPhone land (much less Windows phones).
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antdude
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said by Drunkula:

Some people (I'm not one of them) love G+. I hate it with a passion. I dropped it once when they forced the Play store feedback be hooked to real names, G+ accounts. I relented because I really wanted to praise some app developers and chide others. Now YouTube? WTF? If I weren'y tied so much into Android I'd drop Google completely. There's no way in hell I'm going to iPhone land (much less Windows phones).

Eventually, Google will require G+ on everything including here. :P
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reply to antdude
Keep in mind that the thing that pays the bills for all these "free" services and sites are ultimately ads and user information, info that can be collated and correlated and then sold to interested buyers in the data marketplace. Knowing (or creating) unique user identifiers makes the adspace and information much more valuable, since it makes the user correlation more effective - whether or not the actual user's ID is kept anonymous from the end data buyer.

Consequently, there will always be unrelenting pressure to force users to give up more and more uniquely-identifying information in more and more scenarios. This makes the marketable data correlation more effective and the end result more financially rewarding for the data collector.

Does anybody actually believe there's no hidden cost for all these "free" social network sites, free-mail sites, and entertainment sites (like YouTube, etc)? As other websites find their costs rising for the "free" services they provide, they'll be tempted as well to hook into the creative pay-back offerings of the various Internet data collectors.
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Nobody believes, that there'is no hidden cost for "free" social networks. As no one believes, that those providers don't sell collected (and personal) data to make big bucks in the process. They all do. The question is only where is the limit, where is the balance in that bargain. In this case Google pushes the limit way too far and obviously it becomes inaccessible for some...
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La Luna
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reply to TheMG
said by TheMG:

said by La Luna:

i can't even imagine why anyone would want to bother commenting on youtube videos. I don't even read or pay attention to them. Most of them are comments posted by idiots.

It really depends on the type of video.

I frequently watch videos on YouTube of a more technical nature, and there's usually a lot of constructive comments to these videos.

That makes sense.
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Blackbird
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said by OZO:

Nobody believes, that there'is no hidden cost for "free" social networks. As no one believes, that those providers don't sell collected (and personal) data to make big bucks in the process. They all do. The question is only where is the limit, where is the balance in that bargain. In this case Google pushes the limit way too far and obviously it becomes inaccessible for some...

Perhaps nobody amongst this forum believes it's really free... but that isn't necessarily representative of the large (and fast-growing) segment of 'now-generation' users who are addicted to the apparently "free" features of a socially-connected, latest-buzz, entertainment-dominated Internet. "Push-back" from the majority of Internet users is what will really keep the data-mining "limit" from being shoved even further in the direction of total privacy invasion.

But right now, far more users are building their lives around ever-growing "free" services by dismissing any negative consequences of their personal data being mined than are withdrawing from using those services. Were that not the case, those "free" services built upon such data mining would be in decline or would be retrenching from their increasing intrusiveness - but that's simply not the case. The present reality is that a significant bulk of Internet users value their personal data of so little worth that trading it for Internet services and goodies looks like an exchange costing them nothing. Only the future consequences of harsh reality, displayed over time, will convince them otherwise...
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siljaline
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This is probably not related but YouTube had a major site outage earlier.
»www.theverge.com/2013/11/18/5119···own-hard
Also of note - some IE11 TPL's are causing (application hangs) on YouTube.
You may enter a site at Modern IE to render if a site suits IE 11.


Drunkula
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reply to antdude
Ads can still be served to me without them knowing my real name. I don't have anything against ads, per se. It's Google forcing my real identity when I don't want to be known that I don't like.
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antdude
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said by siljaline:

This is probably not related but YouTube had a major site outage earlier.
»www.theverge.com/2013/11/18/5119···own-hard
Also of note - some IE11 TPL's are causing (application hangs) on YouTube.
You may enter a site at Modern IE to render if a site suits IE 11.

I kept getting internal server 500 errors yesterday afternoon (after 2:15 PM PST) during my lunch break.
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Ian
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said by Drunkula:

Ads can still be served to me without them knowing my real name.

Exactly. But Google+ does not have my real name. And they NEVER will.


siljaline
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reply to antdude
YouTube is up now in all it's advertising glory


antdude
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said by siljaline:

YouTube is up now in all it's advertising glory

FYI, it's = it is/has. You're welcome. :P


antdude
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said by Ian:

said by Drunkula:

Ads can still be served to me without them knowing my real name.

Exactly. But Google+ does not have my real name. And they NEVER will.

They probably do in searches.
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Ian
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said by antdude:

They probably do in searches.

I suppose they might, somehow. Hard to tell based on the ads I get, since I run Adblock.... But I don't store any google cookies or let analytics run scripts.
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