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marqac

join:2013-12-13
Winnipeg, MB

Speed Question

For years I have had no problem with my speed with Shaw. But in the last year I get longer and longer stretches (first it was six weeks in Feb-March and then 2 1/2 months from Aug-Oct and now in the last three weeks it has started again)where my torrent upload speed will start very fast when I first boot up my torrent client (500k/sec) and then after about 10 minutes or so it will drop down to 100k/sec and stay like that for the duration.

If I then shut down my torrent client for an hour or so and then start it back up it will repeat. I have phoned Shaw and they swear up and down (and the conversation got quite heated) that they are not messing around with my speed so I am wondering if anyone has had this issue before or would know a way to solve it.

Thanks.



jtl999
CEO of Team Classified

join:2012-11-24
In the GVRD
kudos:4

Sounds like throttling I used to have. Check your router.


marqac

join:2013-12-13
Winnipeg, MB

What would I check on my router. I get the same behaviour going from modem to router to PC as I do when I go directly from the modem to the PC. Is there an independent way to check to see if I am being throttled?


kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:2

There are a couple online tests that can try to determine if there is throttling, but they don't run for 10 minutes

Shaw shapes many uploads on busy nodes, basically try and ignore it, it will go away when Shaw fixes the node.

And no, none of the employees you talk to will know it is enabled.

corbin here might know who to talk to find out though
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rustydusty

join:2009-09-29
Red Deer, AB
reply to marqac

I would limit your upload speed on your torrent client. Dead give away to anyone, plus excessive seeding won't get you any sort of bonus points.


kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:2

said by rustydusty:

plus excessive seeding won't get you any sort of bonus points

Depends on the tracker...
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rustydusty

join:2009-09-29
Red Deer, AB

Personally, I've never been worried about my reputation with torrenting is. Never had an issue forcing me to use a private tracker either. Must be a big reg flag when a connection is saturation their entire upload for extended periods of time. I do seed, however just enough I don't feel completely greedy

Expand your moderator at work

kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:2
reply to Anon

Re: Speed Question

said by 35930627:

btjunkie was probably the best public tracker in the world before they shut down

Most people I talk to say this about Demonoid

I know this is off-topic, but maybe OP will come back
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ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
kudos:2

Last updated: June 7, 2011
Shaw uses traffic management policies to ensure proportional access to its network for all Shaw Internet customers. Some Peer-to-Peer (P2P) applications used for non real-time file sharing can consume a disproportionate amount of upstream bandwidth causing disruption to other customers on Shaw's network. Shaw's traffic management policies were introduced to quickly address any upstream congestion caused by these P2P applications while standard network expansion activities are undertaken to increase the bandwidth availability for all users.
Shaw's traffic management policies come into effect only if upstream network congestion occurs on a network segment. If congestion occurs, the traffic management policies reduce the amount of upstream bandwidth available for P2P applications completing non real-time file transfer activity to 80 kbps per end-user.
Shaw's traffic management policies do not affect download speeds and will not affect real-time interactive activities such as on-line gaming, banking, e-mail or VoIP services. For the majority of Shaw customers the Internet experience is unaffected by our traffic management policies and both upstream and downstream bandwidth will be available to ensure the full operation of any application.
The traffic management policies implemented by Shaw use IP addresses to make real-time traffic management decisions in relation to Shaw's network. Since IP addresses have the potential to be linked to an individual's customer account, IP addresses could be considered personal information. The traffic management policies implemented by Shaw do not involve capturing, storing or archiving this information in any way.


eject

join:2013-01-23
Reviews:
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while 80kbps is garbage relative to what should be offered i've always limited my upload speed. prior to shaw deciding it wants to become public enemy i set it at 100 and now i have it at 50. what i mean is even 80kbps throttled is enough to make some gains on a private tracker...24/7 of course. now if the person is trying to legitimately upload lets say a youtube video than it's disgusting.


ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
kudos:2

said by ravenchilde:

vailable for P2P applications completing non real-time file transfer activity

said by eject:

now if the person is trying to legitimately upload lets say a youtube video than it's disgusting

Note: Uploading to youtube is HTTP not P2P, so therefore it would not apply to the traffic management policy as it is written.

marqac

join:2013-12-13
Winnipeg, MB
reply to ravenchilde

I don't have an issue if they are throttling me because they do have that right to do so. My issue is that when I ask them about it and I point out that their use polices say that they will throttle me I expect that they will be honest and say that they are, not deny it. That is what I have a problem with.

Now if I take them at their word that they aren't throttling me then there is obviously an issue somewhere either with me or them and since they indicate that they don't have an issue I was wondering if anyone else here has had a similar experience and if they were able to fix it.


kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:2

It is very likely, whomever you are talking to doesn't know...

I remember when the throttling first started, nobody knew, even years later, it was still a big secret and very few knew about it... Ellacoya was this big magic secret word that those who knew, never spoke of... haha

But the telephone reps, I highly doubt know which nodes have the shaping enabled on
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