dslreports logo
site
 
    All Forums Hot Topics Gallery
spc

spacer




how-to block ads


Search Topic:
uniqs
2562
share rss forum feed


nunya
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:12
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·Charter
·surpasshosting

[Electrical] I'll show YOU!

Click for full size
This is from a bank owned property (thankfully not mine). This house is one of the worst I've ever seen (or smelled). The squalor these people left is pretty bad. Not as bad as a full fledged hoarder, but close.
Anyway, when these folks were finally "shown the door", every light fixture in the house was gone. They also cut every circuit breaker out of the panel. I guess I shouldn't complain too much, because it's money in the bank for me.

The irony is many of the items they stole have little to no value (used Homeline breakers and builder grade light fixtures?), but many of the items they left were much more valuable - T.V.s, toys, clothes / shoes, computers, small appliances, etc...
What's even crazier is this is in a decent middle class neighborhood. This was a "Sheriff escort and lock change eviction". When these people were booted out the water, gas, and electric had been off for at least a month.
You should see the toilets!
No sump pump, so the finished basement became an indoor pool.
--
If someone refers to herself / himself as a "guru", they probably aren't.

resare

join:2012-11-07
Greenfield Park, QC

I feel sad for the house itself... The stench must be all over. If nunya's on the case, the electrical should be dandy fine



John97
Over The Hills And Far Away
Premium
join:2000-11-14
Spring Hill, FL
Reviews:
·Bright House
·ooma
reply to nunya

Oof.

I can imagine the horror. When my wife and I first started dating she was in the process of buying a townhouse, that was a foreclosure that had been empty for a year. It wasn't intentionally trashed, but was bad enough.

Heck, I remember some years ago at our old house not having water for 5 days (Thanksgiving weekend) because our well-pump crapped the bed on Wednesday afternoon and I couldn't find anyone willing to come out until Monday. It was our first year in the house, and I knew very little about well systems at the time.
--
So put me on a highway, and show me a sign.
And take it to the limit one more time...


Beezel

join:2008-12-15
Las Vegas, NV
reply to nunya

said by nunya:

This is from a bank owned property (thankfully not mine). This house is one of the worst I've ever seen (or smelled). The squalor these people left is pretty bad. Not as bad as a full fledged hoarder, but close.
Anyway, when these folks were finally "shown the door", every light fixture in the house was gone. They also cut every circuit breaker out of the panel. I guess I shouldn't complain too much, because it's money in the bank for me.

The irony is many of the items they stole have little to no value (used Homeline breakers and builder grade light fixtures?), but many of the items they left were much more valuable - T.V.s, toys, clothes / shoes, computers, small appliances, etc...
What's even crazier is this is in a decent middle class neighborhood. This was a "Sheriff escort and lock change eviction". When these people were booted out the water, gas, and electric had been off for at least a month.
You should see the toilets!
No sump pump, so the finished basement became an indoor pool.

Well at least I see they winterized the hydro panel so it wouldn't freeze. ;p

Hellrazor

join:2002-02-02
Abyss, PA

said by Beezel:

Well at least I see they winterized the hydro panel so it wouldn't freeze. ;p

But you would think the water would run out of the cut wires..


jjoshua
Premium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
kudos:3
reply to nunya

Just remount the panel 6" up. You'll have plenty of slack wire to work with.



nunya
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:12
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·Charter
·surpasshosting

Click for full size
Just one of the rooms. See the mold?
I didn't even have to do that. They all went back in without a fight. It took longer to drive to civilization and get breakers than it did to actually fix it.
--
If someone refers to herself / himself as a "guru", they probably aren't.


ilikeme
I live in a van down by the river.
Premium
join:2002-08-27
Sugar Land, TX
kudos:1
reply to nunya

Its a shame they didn't leave the main breaker on while removing them. Would have possibly solved another problem for them.



norbert26
Premium
join:2010-08-10
Warwick, RI

1 recommendation

reply to nunya

when people loose a house like this they usually end up living out of a car or worse. The only "revenge" they feel they can get on the bank is to trash the house as shown. Taking stuff is no value when you have no where to store it and no money to pay for storage. Just throw it all over the place and make as much a mess as you can.



Thespis
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
Premium
join:2004-08-03
Keller, TX
reply to nunya

If I were the landlord, I would count myself lucky that they didn't think to pour Quickcrete down the toilets...
--
Fast. Cheap. Safe.
Pick two...



davidg
Good Bye My Friend
Premium,MVM
join:2002-06-15
none

3 recommendations

reply to nunya

I've never understood why folks want to so this crap, I know the bank kicks them out for nonpay but in most all cases they had plenty of time to know it was coming. Not the banks' fault that they could not pay the note, even if they took out an ARM the borrower is responsible for knowing what they got into. Heck I am upside down on my own mortgage, but I make sure I pay it every month. Way I look at it is I am not losing money unless I try to sell it! Value will come back up at some point, so if you are in it for the long run then you won't get harmed so long as you can pay the note.
--
Lack of Preparation on YOUR Part does NOT Constitute an Emergency on Mine!



jrs8084
Premium
join:2002-03-02
Statesville, NC
kudos:1
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse

1 edit

1 recommendation

reply to nunya

This reminds me of some "Cops" type show that showed a person appearing on the scene as her car was getting "booted". It was half installed, and the lady was throwing it in F & R, meanwhile tearing up the body, tranny, suspension, etc. Everybody on the front porch was cheering as she finally drove off in her severely mangled car.

Won the battle, lost the war.

Stupidity transcends all classes.



nunya
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:12
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·Charter
·surpasshosting
reply to norbert26

My mom used to say "you don't have to be dirty just because you're poor". This house was trashed long before these creatures were given the boot. The way I understand this went down is the county eviction went though faster than the bank foreclosure. In order to get a county eviction, it's almost certain someone had to report them (kids teacher, neighbor, friend, relative). I know they give them a certain amount of time to re-establish essential services. AFAIK, the only services this county requires to have is running water and sewer (or septic). This is in the boondocks, just outside of an incorporated village.
--
If someone refers to herself / himself as a "guru", they probably aren't.



nunya
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:12
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·Charter
·surpasshosting

5 recommendations

reply to davidg

It's the new "entitlement society". Everybody is a victim and thinks the world owes them something. When they don't get their way, they throw tantrums just like toddlers.
--
If someone refers to herself / himself as a "guru", they probably aren't.



Jack_in_VA
Premium
join:2007-11-26
North, VA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Millenicom

said by nunya:

It's the new "entitlement society". Everybody is a victim and thinks the world owes them something. When they don't get their way, they throw tantrums just like toddlers.

We see some of that on here

It's a shame what people can do like what your pictures show. Sometimes it's even worse with them knocking holes in the sheetrock, pulling the trim off etc.


LazMan
Premium
join:2003-03-26
canada
reply to nunya

said by nunya:

It's the new "entitlement society". Everybody is a victim and thinks the world owes them something. When they don't get their way, they throw tantrums just like toddlers.

Roger that...

I've seen cement poured down drains; wiring and plumbing cut and pulled (although I think that was more for the money - insulated copper was going about a buck a pound, plumbing pipe closer to $3...), drywall smashed, etc, etc... "If I can't have it, no one can!" kind of thinking.

Last foreclosure I bought wasn't that bad, but still took a 20 yd dumpster of garbage out of the house, and off the property, before I started the reno's - and that was after the bank and real estate agent had sent someone through to clean it (who reportedly took 2-3 40 yard bins out...)


jack b
Gone Fishing
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-08
Cape Cod
kudos:1
reply to nunya

We should take all the warning labels off everything even remotely "dangerous" and just let "things" take care of themselves...
--
~Help Find a Cure for Cancer~
~Proud Member of Team Discovery ~



nunya
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:12
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·Charter
·surpasshosting
reply to nunya

BTW, if you are ever interested in a property and want to know the history, talk to the neighbors. A neighbor is worth 100 disclosure forms. That's who told me the back story on this one. A lot of times neighbors neighbors can clue you in to anything from wet basements to crime problems to neighborhood discord.
--
If someone refers to herself / himself as a "guru", they probably aren't.



SwedishRider
Rider on the Storm
Premium
join:2006-01-11
not Sweden
kudos:1

Did you happen to see the neighbors outside, or did you knock on their door looking for info? I think I'd feel a little weird knocking on somebody's door looking for that kind of info..



nunya
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:12
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·Charter
·surpasshosting

I look for them outside and just go say hi. This guy (the mess pictured) came up to me because he finally saw activity at the house and wanted to know what was going on.
--
If someone refers to herself / himself as a "guru", they probably aren't.



randavis
74 Challenger 440 4bbl

join:2000-01-19
Blue Springs, MO
reply to nunya

That "natural selection" theory just doesn't seem to be working very well anymore. I guess there are just too many warning labels!!
--
IUOE Local 101



dib22

join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
reply to nunya

Didn't the bank (or someone working on behalf of the bank) pull the breakers? They tagged it...

Couldn't the damage have occurred after the people were evicted?



Not Always

@verizon.net
reply to nunya

The breaker panel looks too planed to fit in with what was happening with the rest of the property.
The mess portrays someone who is barley functional and in the throes of a serious mental illness.

The breaker panel looks like someone with a plan. Not saying it wasn't the tenants but it could also have been one of the neighbors or someone looking to make the house look worse and less attractive to others. That person would then be able to buy it cheaper and have all the parts for the repairs.

I knew a real estate agent who employed people for underhanded jobs such as this.



John97
Over The Hills And Far Away
Premium
join:2000-11-14
Spring Hill, FL
Reviews:
·Bright House
·ooma
reply to nunya

said by nunya:

BTW, if you are ever interested in a property and want to know the history, talk to the neighbors. A neighbor is worth 100 disclosure forms. That's who told me the back story on this one. A lot of times neighbors neighbors can clue you in to anything from wet basements to crime problems to neighborhood discord.

This couldn't be more true. We got kinda burned when I bought our first house, the guy next door ended up being a real tool (abused his wife, loud parties, shooting illegal fireworks, etc). I started hearing things on move-in day from my other neighbors which sadly ended up being all too true. I regret not talking to them before I signed on the dotted line, because I would have passed on the house.

Sadly, I had no neighbors to talk to when I bought this place. The house on my right was a vacant foreclosure at the time and everything else around me is open space. The folks across the street weren't around because they are part-time residents. Things they told me once I met them would have helped me negotiate a little better, but there were no surprises otherwise.
--
So put me on a highway, and show me a sign.
And take it to the limit one more time...

iknow_t

join:2012-05-03
reply to nunya

said by nunya:

It's the new "entitlement society". Everybody is a victim and thinks the world owes them something. When they don't get their way, they throw tantrums just like toddlers.

but then why should banks, after massive criminal actions, ruining the U.S. economy, forcing jobs to close, make even more profit by foreclosing on their victims houses? you think it's fair to ruin peoples lives to make a profit? most foreclosures are the result of the banks criminal actions trying to make huge profits you know.. maybe some people that were affected don't like the fact they were used, and have no recourse..


shinjuru
Premium,Mod
join:2000-10-29
West Coast
Reviews:
·SureWest Internet

1 recommendation

There could have been many reasons for these folks to do what they did. Without knowing the back-story and their mental state, I certainly wouldn't have considered them as entitled.
--
Data - Game-Tech - Nor*Cal



nunya
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:12
reply to Not Always

It was malicious. The evicted owner is the one who stripped the place.
There's no "plan" to it. They took a pair of dykes and cut each wire at the breaker. Its not rocket science.



linicx
Caveat Emptor
Premium
join:2002-12-03
United State
Reviews:
·TracFone Wireless
·CenturyLink
reply to iknow_t

Many of these banks bundled mortgages they should not have made and sold them to offshore company. One company in Belgium that got involved went bankrupt. The bank got those bundled mortgages dumped on their door step.

One would think a bank would rather collect interest and keep a family in the house if they possibly could rather than let it sit empty for 3-4 years and rot.
--
Mac: No windows, No Gates, Apple inside



Jack_in_VA
Premium
join:2007-11-26
North, VA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Millenicom

1 recommendation

reply to iknow_t

I fail to see how it was a banks fault that people bought way more house than they ever would have the ability to pay for other than crooked real estate inflating the prices and mortgage brokers giving them the loan to start with. All took their cuts at the beginning of the process. Put the blame where it belongs. Nobody who was making their agreed to payments had a problem. People who only had $1000/mo left after all their other expenses can't make $2000/mo house payments.

I have a real estate friend who now is employed by banks and mortgage companies that goes around to the various properties to see if the paper (mortgages) they hold are even close to to the value stated. Most aren't.

So just where is the "massive" criminal actions? For them to trash the house in retaliation for something that was their own fault in most cases is childish and immature on their part and very costly for whoever holds the mortgage. This is the criminal action.



SwedishRider
Rider on the Storm
Premium
join:2006-01-11
not Sweden
kudos:1

What they did to that house was criminal and for whatever reason, they did not pay for the house as agreed. Clearly they are culpable. But there were/are so many culpable parties involved in the whole housing meltdown, one would run out of fingers to point if directing blame.

Homeowners that bought too much house were responsible... And so were bankers, mortgage brokers, real estate brokers, hedge fund managers, builders, flippers, etc, etc.