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Re: [CATV] Can you pressure Cox to remove copy-once flagging?The CCI bytes are usually set by us when we do the various encoding and transcoding and such. However, what those bytes are set to are (sometimes) dictated by content providers. Also which group that does the setting can vary depending on content, so it gets even more convoluted.
I will say the setting of CCI bytes is... well, I suppose "extremely specialized knowledge" is the best way to put it. We have two or maybe three people in my market that know where to go to set them and the various implications, maybe another dozen who know what they are.
I'll see if I can find the right people in your market, but honestly it'll be a while - a lot of Cox folks (myself included) are on vacation right now for the holidays.
Can you provide a list of exactly what channels you're seeing incorrectly flagged, and what their current flagging state you're seeing is? |
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BryanInPHX Premium Member join:2001-03-06 Phoenix, AZ
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said by CoxVegas:The CCI bytes are usually set by us when we do the various encoding and transcoding and such. However, what those bytes are set to are (sometimes) dictated by content providers. Also which group that does the setting can vary depending on content, so it gets even more convoluted.
Can you provide a list of exactly what channels you're seeing incorrectly flagged, and what their current flagging state you're seeing is? It is hard to know what is incorrectly flagged, when everything except the Locals is flagged as Copy Once (0x02) in most markets, I would really like to know if Cox has a strict policy, and why it is not enforced in certain markets (I will not name them here again, as I do not want to be the one to single them out for new copy protection). Here is what one Cox rep stated: » forums.cox.com/forum_hom ··· 109.aspxquote: Hi Everyone.
The copy protections standards we apply are consistent with the agreements Cox has with various programmers to carry their cable content. We assure that these comport with the copy protection rules set forth in Section 76.1904(b) of the FCC's Rules and Regulations as well.
Stephanie A
Cox Forum Moderator
Stephanie A Cox Support Forum Moderator
Note above Cox is NOT consistent, from market to market. |
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You're definitely right there, I couldn't find anyone local in Topeka, even at the store, that could tell me about the CCI settings.
I'd have to run the scan again, but it appears almost everything except the locals are copy-once. Essentially only the ClearQAM ones are freely. |
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Here's the entire list, I'll post a screenshot with the ones showing no "DRM" image: Channels 2 TWC LIMITED 3 WGN LIMITED 4 CITY CHANNEL 1 5 KTKA CW 6 KTMJ SD 7 KSNT SD 8 KTWU SD 9 KTKA SD 10 TOPEKA COLLEGE 11 MYTOPTV 12 KSQA SD 13 WIBW SD 14 TOPEKA SCHOOL L 15 UNIVISION EXPAN 19 HSN EXPANDED 22 KS22 - NEK 23 QVC EXPANDED 24 MSNBC EXPANDED 25 CNN EXPANDED 26 CNN-HL EXPANDED 27 FNC EXPANDED 28 USA EXPANDED 29 TBS EXPANDED 30 TNT EXPANDED 31 F/X EXPANDED 32 ESPN EXPANDED 33 ESPN2 EXPANDED 34 FSKC EXPANDED 35 VH1 EXPANDED 36 MTV EXPANDED 37 ITV EXPANDED 38 LIFETIME EXPAND 39 HGTV EXPANDED 40 FOOD NETWORK EX 41 A&E EXPANDED 42 DISCOVERY EXPAN 43 TLC EXPANDED 44 SPIKE EXPANDED 45 DISNEY EXPANDED 46 NICKELODEON EXP 47 ABC FAMILY EXPA 48 TVLAND EXPANDED 49 HISTORY EXPANDE 50 SYFY EXPANDED 51 TRUTV EXPANDED 52 CMT EXPANDED 53 CNBC EXPANDED 54 TCM EXPANDED 55 AMC EXPANDED 56 ANIMAL PLANET E 57 BET EXPANDED 58 COMEDY EXPANDED 59 E! EXPANDED 60 FOX SPORTS 1 61 BRAVO EXPANDED 62 TRAVEL EXPANDED 63 CARTOON NETWORK 75 NATIONAL GEOGRA 77 OWN 79 GOLF Channel 80 TVGuide LIMITED 85 HALLMARK EXPAND 122 KS22 XTRA - NEK 133 SHOP NBC EXPAND 134 JEWELRY EXPANDE 150 INSPIRATION EXP 153 EWTN EXPANDED 244 ESPNU 245 ESPNews 246 ESPN CLASSICS 261 NFL NETWORK 270 WEATHERSCAN 279 CSPAN LIMITED 280 CSPAN2 LIMITED 281 CSPAN3 308 KSNG-DT2 312 AZTECA 401 HBO EAST 412 MAX LATINO 415 SHOWTIME EAST 427 HBO PLUS WEST 505 WESTERNS EAST 507 STARZ EAST 510 ENCORE EAST 670 KTWU DT3 671 KTWU DT2 675 KTKA WEATHER 676 MYTOPTV 707 CXIN2 709 CXIN1 710 CXINH 770 COX PPV 901 MC-901-HIT LIST 902 MC-902-POP RHYT 903 MC-903-DANCE/ED 904 MC-904-MCU 905 MC-905-HIP-HOP/ 906 MC-906-RAP 907 MC-907-HIP-HOP 908 MC-908-THROWBAC 909 MC-909-R&B CLAS 910 MC-910-R&B SOUL 911 MC-911-GOSPEL 912 MC-912-REGGAE 913 MC-913-ROCK 914 MC-914-METAL 915 MC-915-ALTERNAT 916 MC-916-ADULT AL 917 MC-917-ROCK HIT 918 MC-918-CLASSIC 919 MC-919-SOFT ROC 920 MC-920-LOVE SON 921 MC-921-POP HITS 922 MC-922-PARTY FA 923 MC-923-TEEN MC 924 MC-924-KIDZ ONL 925 MC-925-TODDLER 926 MC-926-Y2K 927 MC-927-90'S 928 MC-928-80'S 929 MC-929-70'S 930 MC-930-SOLID GO 931 MC-931-POP COUN 932 MC-932-TODAY'S 933 MC-933-COUNTRY 934 MC-934-CLASSIC 935 MC-935-CONTEMPO 936 MC-936-POP LATI 937 MC-937-MUSICA U 938 MC-938-MEXICANA 939 MC-939-TROPICAL 940 MC-940-ROMANCES 941 MC-941-SOUNDS O 942 MC-942-STAGE & 943 MC-943-SOUNDSCA 944 MC-944-SMOOTH J 945 MC-945-JAZZ 946 MC-946-BLUES 1501 CXINH 2002 TWC HD 2003 WGN HD 2006 KTMJ HD 2007 KSNT HDTV 2008 KTWU HDTV 2009 KTKA HDTV 2013 WIBW HDTV 2015 UNIVISION HD 2021 KCPT HD 2022 KS22HD-NEK 2024 MSNBC HD 2025 CNN HD 2026 HLN HD 2027 FNC HD 2028 USA HD 2029 TBS HD 2030 TNT HD 2031 F/X HD 2032 ESPN HD 2033 ESPN2 HD 2034 FSKC HD 2035 VH1 HD 2036 MTV HD 2038 LIFETIME HD 2039 HGTV HD 2040 FOOD NETWORK HD 2041 A&E HD 2042 DISCOVERY HD 2043 TLC HD 2044 SPIKE HD 2045 DISNEY HD 2046 NICKELODEON HD 2047 ABC FAMILY HD 2049 HISTORY HD 2050 SYFY HD 2051 TRUTV HD 2052 CMT HD 2053 CNBC HD 2054 TCM HD 2055 AMC HD 2056 ANIMAL PLANET H 2057 BET HD 2058 COMEDY HD 2059 E! NETWORK HD 2060 FOX SPORTS 1 HD 2061 BRAVO HD 2062 TRAVEL HD 2063 CARTOON NETWORK 2075 NATIONAL GEOGRA 2077 OWN HD 2078 NBC SPORTS NETW 2079 GOLF HD 2085 HALLMARK HD 2086 HALLMARK MOVIE 2101 THE HUB HD 2102 SCIENCE HD 2103 DESTINATION AME 2104 INVESTIGATION D 2122 KS22XTRA HD - N 2198 RETROPLEX HD 2199 INDIEPLEX HD 2200 EPIX HD 2201 IFC HD 2203 LIFETIME MOVIE 2208 BBC AMERICA HD 2210 WE EAST HD 2211 NAT GEO WILD HD 2220 G4 EAST HD 2225 DISNEY XD EAST 2229 ESQUIRE TV HD 2237 FUSE HD 2240 COOKING CHANNEL 2244 ESPNU HD 2245 ESPNews HD 2247 PAC12 HD 2248 TENNIS CHANNEL 2249 DIY HD 2250 FXX HD 2253 FOX BUSINESS HD 2255 HISTORY INTERNA 2256 BIOGRAPHY CHANN 2258 OUTDOOR CHANNEL 2259 NBA TV HD 2260 CBS COLLEGE SPO 2261 NFL NETWORK HD 2262 NHL NETWORK HD 2263 MLB NETWORK HD 2267 NFL REDZONE HD 2268 ESPN GOAL LINE 2273 BTNKAN HD 2315 UNIMAS HD 2401 HBO HDTV 2402 HBO PLUS EAST H 2403 HBO SIGNATURE E 2404 HBO FAMILY EAST 2406 HBO ZONE EAST H 2407 CINEMAX HD 2408 MOREMAX HD 2409 ACTIONMAX EAST 2410 THRILLERMAX EAS 2413 5 STAR MAX HD 2415 SHOWTIME HDTV 2417 SHOWTIME SHOWCA 2419 SHOWTIME EXTREM 2423 TMC HD 2426 HBO WEST HD 2427 HBO PLUS WEST H 2431 CINEMAX WEST HD 2432 SHOWTIME WEST H 2434 TMC WEST HD 2437 HBO LATINO EAST 2507 STARZ HD 2508 STARZ EDGE EAST 2509 STARZ BLACK HD 2510 ENCORE EAST HD 2511 STARZ KIDS & FA 2518 STARZ WEST HD 2521 STARZ COMEDY HD 2677 PALLADIA HD 2678 UNIVERSAL HD 2780 TEAM 01 HD 2781 TEAM 02 HD 2782 TEAM 03 HD 2783 TEAM 04 HD 2784 TEAM 05 HD 2785 TEAM 06 HD 2786 TEAM 07 HD 2787 TEAM 08 HD 2788 TEAM 09 HD 2791 GAME 01 HD 2792 GAME 02 HD 2793 GAME 03 HD 2794 GAME 04 HD 2795 GAME 05 HD 2796 GAME 06 HD 2797 GAME 07 HD 2798 GAME 08 HD 2799 GAME 09 HD 2900 MC PLAY HD |
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Rakeesh
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2013-Dec-28 11:53 am
Wow that's weird, they have some channels that are always flagged on other networks unflagged, and some channels that should be unflagged flagged anyways. Univision for example is an OTA hispanic network, and afaik FCC rules don't permit flagging that channel. |
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Thanks for looking into this! Any word yet? |
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your lucky your locals aren't flagged. They were in Omaha at least they were before we swithed over to tivo. Not sure anymore if they are. |
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said by CoxVegas:Can you provide a list of exactly what channels you're seeing incorrectly flagged, and what their current flagging state you're seeing is? I'm in the Oklahoma City market and I believe it has all non-locals marked as copy once as well. I had purchased a TiVo Stream a few months ago hoping to transfer some children programming to my old iPhone or iPad for my kid then figured out it wasn't going to work for transfer. |
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