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Residential 250 vs Business 250Same house, modems connected to the same line, same computer etc. Residential:
Business:
The Business upload is also 16.5 but is not reflected since I have legitament business traffic which i could not disconnect for the purpose of this test.
Kinda sucks that they are clearly limiting the residential connection. Although at the same time it gives me some satisfaction that paying $350 a month is not for nothing and that my business connection is getting priority over the kid next door and his torrenting.
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Shaw250
Anon
2014-Jan-27 9:43 pm
Is it on the same node? |
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Not sure what you mean by same node. Both modems were connected to the same master coax cable thru a splitter. I was not able to use the exact same cable since I am not able to have downtime on the business line. |
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jtl999
Member
2014-Jan-27 10:56 pm
That would be the same node. Let's see what happens when you max one at the same time. I heard Telus might do 100/20 in the future over VDSL2. |
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heres what happened with both running a speedtest at the same time. The Business line shot up to 200+ at the start and then was clearly affected once i started the residential test.
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jtl999
Member
2014-Jan-27 11:42 pm
Hmmm. Causing node congestion by maxing out one connection. You see in my area that was my problem with BB50. On Telus 50 now.
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You think its node congestion? There may be many other factors such as bandwidth from server, or perhaps theres a limit to how much data can move thru the one Coax coming into my house? I dunno....I'm no expert on this stuff |
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jtl999
Member
2014-Jan-27 11:54 pm
The max of the Docsis nodes Shaw uses I think is 320mbps |
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Heres with one using different servers. It did still seem affected but not so much
Not bad, 300mbit over one coax cable lol.
Wonder why my Residential connection can't crack 100mbit tonight.....seems weird
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NinjaAction |
to jtl999
said by jtl999:On Telus 50 now. I wanted to use Telus on my setup here, but there always seems to be a roadblock with them. I had a Telus 50 residential connection for a few months, it was great. When I started the business network, I called in and the best they could do was 15/1 on a business line. Then I asked if I could switch my residential plan to a business plan and they said no. Something about ports on their system being reserved for either business or residential but not transferable between the two. Its BS. I then asked if a static ip was posible on the residential 50, and of course it was not. I've got a remote office in downtown Drayton Valley which can only get 1.5/.5 dsl. Getting very tired of Telus BS here. |
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jtl999
Member
2014-Jan-28 12:20 am
They have 25/5 business lines. Might want to try and beg for that. |
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to NinjaAction
simply put. business connections get more prioritization. i believe its called traffic shaping but im not sure.
kevinds once explained this to me saying if the node were to be congested. it essentially starts to limit everyones bandwidth in order to avoid causing severe congestion problems. but it seems like some rules are being applied to your connection even tho your node isnt congested (if 200/300mbps are available. that would mean the rest of the traffic isnt pushing 30% and you are on a good node with light usage like me. its simply shaws way of making sure you dont make your internet worse for your neighbors. although since the node is low usage. i have no idea why they would limit your residential connection. see if the power levels and SNR levels on both modems r the same. if they aren't and 1 modem is on a 7DB part of the splitter and another is on a 3.5 that could be it right there. |
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Anonimuz Premium Member join:2008-12-08 canada |
to NinjaAction
Same modem as well? That seems strange, I wasn't aware there was a way to prioritize speeds between modems. |
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kevinds Premium Member join:2003-05-01 Calgary, AB |
to Kinzy
Two modems at 250mbps at the same time on a 320mbps node is congestion... It isn't prioritization as far as I know, its just every user fighting for a slice of the available speed But I agree start by getting your modem's signal checked |
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I called in. Signal Levels are excellent(And Identical) for both modems. Here what the speedtest looks like this morning:
Not sure how much more testing i can do here guys. Going to call in and cancel the residential connection soon.
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Kinzy to kevinds
Anon
2014-Jan-28 7:04 pm
to kevinds
im about 99.99% sure he wasnt running both tests at the same time. he even said they were connected to same computer so he would have to test. reconnect and test. are the routers hooked up to each of the connections different or are you using the shaw routers, or are you using in bridge mode without a router. that would be your next step. 136+238 is not possible thats 374mbps. and although you said there is 320mbps available. there is really only 304. am almost 100% u mentioned something that business lines were not affected by traffic shaping in congested areas? do u not remember saying that or am i crazy? i swear you essentially said in areas where you arent getting full speed. you will get slightly better speed with a business line. i remember it because it was one of the benefits i would have expected to get. not like im on a congested node or anything ps 238 down is probably the best i have seen. personally if i were u i would try to get signal levels even better and cross 250. tho your levels are good. i doubt there as good as they could be. shaw probably provisions your line for like 265/270 maybe 275 you could probably get 255-265 down. i get 107 on 100mbit. 7X2.5 = 17.5 so your max should be 267.5 if the same ratio's are applied to bb250. and they definitely are i can tell because of your upload speed. now don't use up all your data cap on speedtest probably over 150MB per test. lol |
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Yes the 238 and 136 were not at the same time. You can see the test time in the top right of the picture. The only results that were at the same time were in my above post where i stated they were at the same time, and i got 176+99 In any case i'm happy. I've got a kick ass business line. My Residential line is now disconected, however for 9.99 a month i'm adding the second "Guest" line which will also be 250/15. I'm going to use that one as for my personal stuff. Only crappy part is i'm not allowed to put it in bridge mode. Oh well, hard to complain at 9.99 a month. PS my tests were done in bridge mode to a PFSense virtual appliance running on a 6 core Xeon server. Should be no issues with WAN to LAN throughput on that setup |
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jtl999
Member
2014-Jan-28 9:09 pm
For the guest line do they use a second Cisco? |
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Yep its another Cisco in Gateway mode. Any idea what those things are like in that mode? Can I put another router on its dmz and double nat or will that cause lots of issues? |
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jtl999
Member
2014-Jan-28 9:38 pm
I may know a way to bridge them without needing Shaw. |
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oh really? PM me |
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kevinds Premium Member join:2003-05-01 Calgary, AB |
to Kinzy
Correct, business lines are not affected by packet-shaping
Shaw only shapes the upload, and supposed to only be on congested nodes |
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kevinds |
to jtl999
If you know of a way that still works, let me know, but I think Shaw/Cisco closed the hole we were using to bridge modems before
But yes, they give you a 2nd Cisco modem in gateway mode only
I bridged mine when it still worked, so I have two 100/5 bridged modems, one with WiFi still enabled (public IPs via WiFi) |
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jtl999
Member
2014-Jan-28 10:17 pm
Googled and looks like its patched. I want a Shaw Cisco modem just to hack. Read it runs some form of RTOS. The mighty StarBuck made some posts a few years ago on using third party modems on Shaw network (Orange modems>) Whatever that means. Hopefully he will see this and clarify |
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to NinjaAction
Are both these modems in bridge mode? |
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to jtl999
So are you guys saying bridge hack is not possible anymore? |
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NinjaAction |
to ravenchilde
said by ravenchilde:Are both these modems in bridge mode? yes both bridged. |
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to NinjaAction
I don't know personally as I have Telus now. |
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Well got my Guest connection setup. Looks suspiciously similar to my residential speed test. Now i'm wondering what the weak link is here.
Only thing that has changed is this modem is not bridged whereas the residential connection was bridged.
Anyone know how the WAN->LAN throughput is like on these cisco's in gateway mode?
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NinjaAction |
to jtl999
said by jtl999:I don't know personally as I have Telus now. 403 FORBIDDEN DOH! |
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