siljalineI'm lovin' that double wide Premium Member join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC
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siljaline
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2014-Feb-11 10:09 pm
Mozilla Will Serve Ads Within Tiles Of Its New Tab PagesMozilla To Sell Ads In Firefox Web Browser » adage.com/article/specia ··· /291641/Mo' Money Mozilla: Firefox to Introduce Sponsored Content » mashable.com/2014/02/11/ ··· fox-ads/Publisher Transformation with Users at the Center » blog.mozilla.org/advanci ··· -center/Assuming the Moz KB is no longer relevant - Mozilla are in for a user and Industry backlash. » support.mozilla.org/en-U ··· p-sites? |
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sivranVive Vivaldi Premium Member join:2003-09-15 Irving, TX
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sivran
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2014-Feb-11 10:18 pm
Time for me to switch browsers again I guess. Whether it's a third party build or something else entirely... |
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GadgetsRmeRIP lilhurricane and CJ Premium Member join:2002-01-30 Canon City, CO |
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According to the link: » support.mozilla.org/en-U ··· p-sites? This feature can easily be turned off, which is good. If it is not I'll be gone. |
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BlackbirdBuilt for Speed Premium Member join:2005-01-14 Fort Wayne, IN |
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I can't say that it matters a lot to me in terms of how I use a browser. Since using Firefox over the last 6 months or so, I've yet to open a blank tab. Every new tab I employ is already occupied with the sought link that opens it, and when I start it up, it goes to my local home page. Back when I used Presto Opera, I always killed off all the SpeedDials for the same reason (being that I never used them). I guess the impact of ads on a blank tab depends on how one uses the browser... |
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I don't use blank tabs but will turn off the "feature" anyway and hope firefox doesn't extend their greediness to more ads.
edited to add: Though it is looking like maybe time to change browsers fairly soon |
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siljalineI'm lovin' that double wide Premium Member join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC |
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Seems to me unless I'm missing something; Randall Rothenberg of the IAB have cut a deal with Mozilla at the Palm Springs meeting to monetise the Browser at next release or soon. |
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trparky Premium Member join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH ·AT&T U-Verse
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to siljaline
Some of the things that Mozilla has been doing as of late have indeed made me move to another browser. I use Palemoon myself which is a Firefox derivative meaning that it's based upon the same source code that Firefox uses but most, if not all, of Mozilla's recently added BS removed from it.
Not only that but it's one of only a few 64-bit browsers out there. I figure that if I have a 64-bit CPU, a 64-bit OS, and a crap ton of RAM why am I limiting myself to a 32-bit browser with a 2 GB virtual address space. The 64-bit version of Palemoon runs far better than Firefox. |
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Another vote for PaleMoon instead of Firefox: » www.palemoon.org/I also find the fairly new QupZilla interesting especially as a replacement for the ever-more bloated Chrome: » www.qupzilla.com/ |
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siljalineI'm lovin' that double wide Premium Member join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC |
to dandelion
How a new blank tab appears on Firefox 27 (excuse late nite screen capture) |
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to siljaline
One can always use SeaMonkey instead. The new tabs there are blank. |
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Mele20 Premium Member join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI
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to GadgetsRme
The ads will only affect NEW users of Fx...(for now at least).
Plus, only those who use New Tab Page will be affected. New Tab Page is the worst feature Mozilla ever came out with in the history of its browser IMO. The same applies to Opera when they started the same crap before Mozilla did.
You don't want to just disable this awful stuff. You want to completely kill it:
In about:config set the following as I have them:
browser.newtab.url;about:blank
browser.newtabpage.enabled;false
If you want enhancements to tabbed browsing there are many excellent extensions for that. I use Tree Style Tabs, Multiple Tab Handler, and Informational Tab all by the same author but there are other excellent ones also and they all negate any need for this junk from Mozilla called New Tab Page and now Ads on the new tabs. |
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to siljaline
I'd be curious though if this type of browser behavior would be stopped by using NoScript and / or AdBlock Plus?
NefCanuck |
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therube join:2004-11-11 Randallstown, MD |
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For what would seem to be (could end up being) quite a controversial change, they sure don't provide much information! And really all they need to say (& do) is to state that; this is disabled by default, & its usage is optional per user choice. And at that point, whether it is there or not is moot, because the Users at the Center. I'm quite happy that a blank tab opens ... well, a blank tab (in SeaMonkey .) |
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This can only apply to the new versions, and the old versions can be obtained from ftp.mozilla.org/pub thus negating the effort. I stocked up on old FF and TB anyway as the new ones are monstrosities with unnecessary overhead I am apparently not using. |
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to PX Eliezer1
Thanks for tip on 64 bit PaleMoon browser. Works great on my 64 bit laptop and all but 1 add-on from Firefox I had worked as well. |
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to trparky
said by trparky: I use Palemoon myself which is a Firefox derivative meaning that it's based upon the same source code that Firefox uses but most, if not all, of Mozilla's recently added BS removed from it. +1 yes indeedy Palemoon is a fine compilation of FF. |
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siljalineI'm lovin' that double wide Premium Member join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC |
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Not much point in running older versions as they would obviously be open to exploits, etc - we'll see how this plays out in the next release.
If the money bit (assuming Mozilla goes through with it) can be disabled via opt-out or about:config
For the time being, I've disabled background or internal updates. You may not want to do the latter at home. |
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I'm not sure what Mozilla is doing, but I suspect people are over-reacting.
When I first saw the firefox version of "Speed Dial" (as Opera called it), there was mostly an empty page. After a while, it filled with pages from my browsing history -- until I disabled that.
I suspect that all they are planning, is to pre-fill the page with advertising, which will eventually be pushed out by pages from your browsing history. And they will probably still allow disabling it.
If that's all that they are doing, then I'm not much concerned. |
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siljalineI'm lovin' that double wide Premium Member join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC |
siljaline
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2014-Feb-13 12:20 am
I suspect the Moz folks are doing the wrong thing as well but may back out as the backlash has been significant, to say the least.
Us Firefox users are a resilient bunch and will surely be able to find something to block the ad-tabs, if we see them.
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siljaline
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to Mele20
It would seem all of this is contrary to Mozilla's Manifesto. » www.mozilla.org/en-US/ab ··· nifesto/ |
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beck MVM join:2002-01-29 On The Road |
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I just tried Palemoon too. All my stuff seems to work in it. |
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to trparky
Palemoon is wonderful, and it cuts out a lot of the sillier Mozilla crap which, lets face it, is always touted as "for the user."
Which, if it really was "for the user" wouldn't cause Mozilla to either close comments or prune any negative ones. It seems if they want an opinion, they'll give it to you. (Which doesn't bode well for future development.) |
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PjrDon't Panic join:2005-12-11 UK
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said by nwrickert:I suspect that all they are planning, is to pre-fill the page with advertising, which will eventually be pushed out by pages from your browsing history. And they will probably still allow disabling it. That was my understanding too. From » blog.mozilla.org/advanci ··· -center/ : The newest program is one were calling Directory Tiles, which is designed to improve the first-time-with-Firefox experience. Currently, if a new Firefox user opens a new tab, this is what they see:
[Image of a blank new tab]
Their tiles those nine rectangles that populate over time with the most frequent and recent websites they visit are empty. The new tab page isnt delivering any value for them.
Directory Tiles will instead suggest pre-packaged content for first-time users. Some of these tile placements will be from the Mozilla ecosystem, some will be popular websites in a given geographic location, and some will be sponsored content from hand-picked partners to help support Mozillas pursuit of our mission. The sponsored tiles will be clearly labeled as such, while still leading to content we think users will enjoy. |
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siljalineI'm lovin' that double wide Premium Member join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC
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Transparent community-based processes promote participation, accountability and trust. |
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said by siljaline:Transparent community-based processes promote participation, accountability and trust. I'm honestly not trying to be argumentative, but how does announcing (and presumably executing) a decision about putting ads on a "new tab page" in a forthcoming Firefox version violate transparency of processes, especially since they indicated last summer they were playing with the concept? I'm not a current expert on Mozilla or how it gets its code written, makes its decisions, nor maintains user trust. I'm just a fairly recent refugee from Opera, arriving at Firefox 25 (now 27) about 6 months ago. When I had last seriously used a Mozilla product before, was back in Firebird days... and I'm trying to understand where/how this decision would go against the principles of Mozilla as I understood them back then - or how those principles might have changed in the intervening years. |
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TheMG Premium Member join:2007-09-04 Canada MikroTik RB450G Cisco DPC3008 Cisco SPA112
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I had the tiles thing enable for a few weeks after that feature came out. Found them to be quite useless.
90% of the time, when I manually open a new tab, it is to search for something.
So I configured new tabs to automatically load google.com.
about:config
browser.newtab.url set to whatever you want, or about:blank if you just want a blank tab. |
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siljalineI'm lovin' that double wide Premium Member join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC |
siljaline
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2014-Feb-14 12:59 am
said by TheMG:I had the tiles thing enable for a few weeks after that feature came out. Found them to be quite useless. As did I - the question remains, at the next build - will one be able to use about:config to remove the new tab ads if they are rolled out at all. The Firefox user world awaits what Mozilla decides to do next. |
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Mele20 Premium Member join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI
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Mele20
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2014-Feb-14 1:19 am
Why don't you join the discussion at Mitchell's blog? She's interacting with those responding and says she will post more tomorrow. Ask her directly. » blog.lizardwrangler.com/ ··· caution/ |
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Publisher Transformation with Users at the Center » blog.mozilla.org/advanci ··· -center/has an update............More Details on Directory Tiles quote: *Feb. 13 update: I posted more details about Directory Tiles here.*
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