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El Quintron
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reply to HiVolt

Re: Canada's 700Mhz spectrum auction is over, results today - 5pm

They should give us lower prices on all of it.

5 or 6 GB is fine, for now, on a cellphone, but it won't be in the future, and it wouldn't be for those who's main broadband connection is some sort of wireless product.
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ekster
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Well, that's 4 different companies per area. Clearly the plan for competition is a major success and we can all rejoice.

Hopefully everyone involved give themselves a nice pat on the back and get plenty of big bonuses for all their hard work and success.


elwoodblues
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The 30 dollar for 6b was reasonable, of course now that same 30 bucks gets you 400mb.

I agree we don't need unlimited, even on my most active months, I maybe hit a touch over 3gb.
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Spike
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said by elwoodblues:

The 30 dollar for 6b was reasonable, of course now that same 30 bucks gets you 400mb.

I agree we don't need unlimited, even on my most active months, I maybe hit a touch over 3gb.

The $30/6GB plan was very reasonable, the fact that they can offer it whenever they feel like it means they could easily make it permanent.
Obviously they're too greedy and only use this plan to as a vehicle to draw new activations.
If this isn't an indication of price gouging I don't know what is. The CRTC should intervene on this garbage. $30 for 400MB? BS.

ings
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reply to El Quintron
said by El Quintron:

it wouldn't be for those who's main broadband connection is some sort of wireless product.

My rural home depends on wireless broadband from Bell. I use a lot more than 5 GB per month (and pay dearly for it). However I recognize that this is not a mainstream scenario.


HiVolt
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I still have my original 6GB/$30 addon on Rogers since i ordered an iPhone 3G on launch day..

I had some discounts and stuff expire when my contract expired last September, and Rogers would absolutely not budge on giving me any discounts as long as I kept that data plan. It got to the point where I told them (and retentions) that I'm porting my number after being a customer since 2000. They sent one of those automatic support surveys the next day or so, and I really let them have it there, and lo and behold, someone called me back and offered to give me the same discounts I had...

They are really losing their minds with the pricing...
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El Quintron
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said by ings:

However I recognize that this is not a mainstream scenario.

It's mainstream enough considering my property an hour north of Toronto doesn't have any type of wired broadband.
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elwoodblues
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All my discounts also expired and they refused to do a damn thing. So I told them I'm going to Wind, and they didn't care, in fact i ported out 15 days early, but they were 'kind' enough not to nail me for early termination.
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Spike
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said by elwoodblues:

All my discounts also expired and they refused to do a damn thing. So I told them I'm going to Wind, and they didn't care, in fact i ported out 15 days early, but they were 'kind' enough not to nail me for early termination.

Do you have Rogers Cable and homephone also? I believe this makes a large difference when it comes to retentions. Piss off a customer like HiVolt and he'll probably cancel his cable and go FibeTV/Sat or something.


elwoodblues
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Nope I have nothing with them, They screwed themselves over when it came to cable.

I had a deal in which I got a PVR for life and the cost of the service was like $30/month

4-5yrs ago, I was renovating the house and I called to suspend the service (why pay for something I'm not using). I figured 3 months (boy was I wrong) and catch this, if you suspend a service, you lose your deal. Anyway the woman on the phone figured something out and all was good. Towards the end of 3 months realize the end was not in sight I called to extend.

OH no you don't qualify (for what they called)" the travelers package".

WTF? I qualified last month
Oh that CSR made a mistake.

Fine, cancel everything

I have never looked back. There is a vast rich niche of content available out there, that the media companies here will never buy. They can't seem to see much beyond what's south of us.

I've watched so many British Drama's (that's not even on BBC Canada (which is Shaw IIRC)
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yyzlhr

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reply to Spike
It doesn't make any difference. They know that nobody else is offering 6GB for $30 so they'd rather lose you as a customer then take a hit on their margins. They know someone will eventually come along and pay the $105 they're now demanding for 6GB.


elwoodblues
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said by yyzlhr:

It doesn't make any difference. They know that nobody else is offering 6GB for $30 so they'd rather lose you as a customer then take a hit on their margins. They know someone will eventually come along and pay the $105 they're now demanding for 6GB.

The term for that is called COLLUSION. You know the members of Robellus sat down and decided not to offer the deal, But of course officially that never happened.
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said by elwoodblues:

said by yyzlhr:

It doesn't make any difference. They know that nobody else is offering 6GB for $30 so they'd rather lose you as a customer then take a hit on their margins. They know someone will eventually come along and pay the $105 they're now demanding for 6GB.

The term for that is called COLLUSION. You know the members of Robellus sat down and decided not to offer the deal, But of course officially that never happened.

Just because they're all at the same restaurant for lunch does not mean they had lunch together......


elwoodblues
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reply to MFido
Interesting write up in the Globe about the results, most "analysts" dont expect VTL to go national.
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said by elwoodblues:

All my discounts also expired and they refused to do a damn thing. So I told them I'm going to Wind, and they didn't care, in fact i ported out 15 days early, but they were 'kind' enough not to nail me for early termination.

Like I said, when i was on the phone with them, both regular and retention, they didnt care at all... Its only after i gave them a piece of my mind in the survey response someone contacted me. I was going to port to wind within a week...
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Yeah Rogers got really strict about killing those credits, although i kinda understood in my case since i had $47 a month worth of credits on a base $45 plan (but with all my addons was still $80+ a month)

they wouldn't budge on giving me my credits back, but after like 3 hours on the phone with them i ended up with more than i had before for the same price (actually 2 bucks cheaper)

seemed like a lot of wasted CSR time to end up with the same revenue from me, but hey, they wanted the credits gone :P


elwoodblues
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said by jibby:

Yeah Rogers got really strict about killing those credits, although i kinda understood in my case since i had $47 a month worth of credits on a base $45 plan (but with all my addons was still $80+ a month)

they wouldn't budge on giving me my credits back, but after like 3 hours on the phone with them i ended up with more than i had before for the same price (actually 2 bucks cheaper)

seemed like a lot of wasted CSR time to end up with the same revenue from me, but hey, they wanted the credits gone :P

I was in a similar boat, my credits were more then I was paying them. Absolutely hilarious, I went from $96/month before tax to below $40 with tax.
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TheMG
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reply to MFido
What is Feenix? Can't really find much info about them.

jam_bongo

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said by TheMG:

What is Feenix? Can't really find much info about them.

It's a venture owned by strangely enough John Bitove A.k.A the founder of Mobilicity

TheMG
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said by jam_bongo:

said by TheMG:

What is Feenix? Can't really find much info about them.

It's a venture owned by strangely enough John Bitove A.k.A the founder of Mobilicity

Wonder what they're going to do with that slice of spectrum they got in the NWT...?

koreyb
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reply to HiVolt
said by HiVolt:

said by Guspaz:

said by elwoodblues:

VTL is just goinging the Robellus cartel, I don't seem them being cheap like Wind.

Maybe not, but Videotron did briefly offer that unlimited data plan, which Robellus don't do for even brief periods.

I don't need unlimited... 99% of people don't need unlimited mobile data...

What we need is reasonable prices on data around 5-6gb/month.

said by HiVolt:

said by Guspaz:

said by elwoodblues:

VTL is just goinging the Robellus cartel, I don't seem them being cheap like Wind.

Maybe not, but Videotron did briefly offer that unlimited data plan, which Robellus don't do for even brief periods.

I don't need unlimited... 99% of people don't need unlimited mobile data...

What we need is reasonable prices on data around 5-6gb/month.

Right now.. but as the past has shown, 5-6 is not going to go as far as it once did. A better approach is more like what WIND is doing where after 5-6gigs,they simply slow your connection.

I rather have that, than this idea of endless overcharging that Videotron has join the BIG ROBELLUS gang.

I don't now see a reason to even try videotron if they expand.

technik0

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Yea think I'll just stick it out on 3G at WIND. Fast enough and coverage in places where I spend literally 99% of my life. $27.50+tax...I'll cope just fine.

Always chuckle when I hear the Fido ads on the radio with their "epic" $39 plan that is complete turd.


TLS2000
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said by technik0:

Yea think I'll just stick it out on 3G at WIND. Fast enough and coverage in places where I spend literally 99% of my life. $27.50+tax...I'll cope just fine.

Always chuckle when I hear the Fido ads on the radio with their "epic" $39 plan that is complete turd.

Except it has LTE and coverage (without roaming charges) for 90% of the population of the country. If Wind was a national carrier, then I believe that the big three would offer better rates, but as it is they don't really need to when they're doing just fine with the way things are.
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koreyb
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Well I think WIND can actually offer expanded coverage IF the CRTC manages to force wholesale cell rates to drop as they are debating right now. If WIND can get unlimited everything for 15 bucks extra a month for the states, clearly there is an issue in Canada getting reasonable roaming agreements. I think if they can get a 10 dollar add on that gives you unlimited access to a roaming network outside their own, It would give WIND time.

Wind has lower grade 4G... HSPA+ on most towers... but the issue is not all towers are setup with it. I know LTE would be great, but I think there is some room to give on the HSPA+ technology for them if they expand it to all towers and get the CRTC to let them get roaming agreements that are reasonable.

I would be willing to pay 10 dollars extra to get the Canadian roaming, and ROGERS who they use now in Canada could simply limit them to HSPA+ speeds which would limit any worries ROGERS will have about bring down the network or some nonsense.

I have Wind, and being on HSPA+ doesn't bug me at all.. It works for what I need. LTE is a bunch of marketing BS for the most part as MOST people really don't need LTE speeds, but only think they do. Only issue I have is some towers are still 3.5G, and some (not very many anymore) have towers that are congested. I think the issue is more with people who use these connections as home internet connections, which is not what it's meant to be.


TLS2000
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As much as I'm for competition, you're asking that Rogers indirectly subsidize Wind. They'd have no incentive to expand their network if they do that.
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said by TLS2000:

As much as I'm for competition, you're asking that Rogers indirectly subsidize Wind. They'd have no incentive to expand their network if they do that.

When did this thread turn into a comedy routine?!?
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elwoodblues
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reply to koreyb
I'm all for that, 10 bucks across the country