 JenSuisUn
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join:2006-02-23
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to dragonzealot
Re: General update: Webmail, Zap the cap, Pay Now and MAC modem updateHello,
The usage counter will start on April 1st and will count towards the cap.
Regards,
Martin |
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to TSI Marc
What about us in the videotron part of the world?
We do not see what was downloaded off peak? |
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mikee
join:2012-12-21
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to TSI Marc
good feature will probably use it when its april 1st, though it says i will be at 15mbps from 8pm-12am(midnight) and is that what my CAP will be or the lowest it will be? |
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 DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress
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join:2009-06-15
Canada
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Looking at things THAT way, it would be like having a DIFFERENT kind of cap, eh ?  Trading one cap for another ? Hmmmm,,,, We need TOUQUES in this weather, not CAPs !  |
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QCTLG
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2014-Mar-9 10:37 am
said by QCTLG:What about us in the videotron part of the world?
We do not see what was downloaded off peak? I'm wondering why no response to this question...Are we pleading the 5th on this one? |
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said by JMJimmy:said by oceros37:said by JMJimmy:You missed a key point - I have the Sagemcom POS... When my service is sluggish (13-17Mbps) the wireless goes down to 2-4Mbps. When it goes below 10Mbps the wireless goes down to 1.5Mbps or lower which isn't viable. That's ridiculous. Disable wifi and try a different/separate router? It is absolutely ridiculous. I can't try a separate router without voiding the warranty on the rental since the Sagemcom can't be put in bridge mode without flashing 3rd party firmware. I know what I need to do is buy a SmartRG but my money has more important priorities right now. Sagemcom works ok in passthrough bridge if your not in the 50mbps speed tier. |
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JenSuisUn
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join:2006-02-23
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to QCTLG
said by QCTLG:said by QCTLG:What about us in the videotron part of the world?
We do not see what was downloaded off peak? I'm wondering why no response to this question...Are we pleading the 5th on this one? We are still working out some kinks with the VCable monitor. For the time being it's monitoring 24hrs a day. Martin |
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this zap the cap is an excellent feature!! My brother downloads a lot and my parents watch a nice bit of online streaming during dinner time. So yeah this helps alot. Its funny how alot of people are complaining, I actually wouldn't mind if you throttled the speed to 6megs during that time hehehe. |
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Is there any plans to offer a similar option to zap the cap on 150GB plans? |
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 RizzleQCunningham's Law Enthusiast
Premium Member
join:2006-01-12
Windsor, ON
Ubiquiti U6-LR
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RizzleQ
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2014-Mar-19 2:35 pm
Yeah, why not offer ZTC on all non-unlimited packages instead of only 300 GB packages? |
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mikee
join:2012-12-21
Gloucester, ON |
mikee
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2014-Mar-19 3:06 pm
because every body will change to 75gb plans XD |
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RizzleQCunningham's Law Enthusiast
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RizzleQ
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2014-Mar-19 4:30 pm
Good point. You pay more for a 300GB plan to gain access to the ZTC feature. |
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Well they could make an even bigger compromise.
IE has even slower throttled speeds or make the window smaller. |
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 MashikiBalking The Enemy's Plans
join:2002-02-04
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to RizzleQ
said by RizzleQ:Good point. You pay more for a 300GB plan to gain access to the ZTC feature. I'm actually curious as to the number of people who have ZTC running, but don't use their internet during peak. I know I'm one of them, so are several of my friends here in town. We either work midnights, or "peak" isn't that for us. For me it's 12-8am, would be interesting to see some stats. |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress
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said by Mashiki:I'm actually curious as to the number of people who have ZTC running, but don't use their internet during peak. I know I'm one of them, so are several of my friends here in town. We either work midnights, or "peak" isn't that for us. For me it's 12-8am, would be interesting to see some stats. So these folks would not be losing the bandwidth (speed) during peak period if they did not DL then, but would still be gaining the unlimited overall usage. Hmmmm.... That would be a Win-Win, both for them AND for TSI. |
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said by JenSuisUn:said by QCTLG:said by QCTLG:What about us in the videotron part of the world?
We do not see what was downloaded off peak? I'm wondering why no response to this question...Are we pleading the 5th on this one? We are still working out some kinks with the VCable monitor. For the time being it's monitoring 24hrs a day. Martin does that mean no 2-8am unlimited for Vcable? for those who are on capped plans, it's stressful to always check our usage... for the time being can we call in to check the usage? (don't want to waste too much TSI ressources for such a small thing) |
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JenSuisUn
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join:2006-02-23
Chatham, ON |
The 2am to 8am unlimited window is still there. The issue is that the monitor adds the usage during that period to the total. This is what we are attempting to resolve so we can separate both from totals. |
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dsl33
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2014-Mar-23 3:25 pm
ok. thanks... |
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fefrie
join:2012-08-17
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to koreyb
It sort of sounds harsh, but people in the highest teirs get the greatest deal when it comes to $/mbps. They cause the most stress to the system during peak times and pay the least amount doing it.
If the 100mbps tier paid the same rate per mbps as the 7.5mbps tier did, a 100mbps line would cost $400.
So higher tiers should see a greater decrease in service to reflect this to zap the cap. |
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said by TSI Marc:A 30mbit connection used at full capacity costs us more than $450 per mth. What percentage of those costs fall into the peak time category? I feel like I get a great value out of TS. I would not want to be personally responsible for putting you guys out of business. |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress
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to fefrie
said by fefrie:It sort of sounds harsh, but people in the highest teirs get the greatest deal when it comes to $/mbps.
They cause the most stress to the system during peak times and pay the least amount doing it.
If the 100mbps tier paid the same rate per mbps as the 7.5mbps tier did, a 100mbps line would cost $400.
So higher tiers should see a greater decrease in service to reflect this to zap the cap. You know what ? I had not looked at it in exactly that way (and none of the ISPs have said it like that), but it DOES make sense, the way you explained it. |
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fefrie
join:2012-08-17
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fefrie
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2014-Mar-26 3:13 am
Thanks, I should think that it makes more sense since TS fees for CBB don't magically go down the more they buy bandwidth from incumbents during peak times. In fact they go up.
My dream pricing plan would have a guaranteed minimum bandwidth during peak times, and as a reward still have unlimited bandwitdh between 2-8am AND have a bonus speed bump during the shoulder times.
So for example on my 7.5mbit connection, during peak periods I'd be fine with a capped 6mbit connection. During the unlimited download period I'd be great with a 10mbit connection, and during the day I'd be happy with the same 7.5mbit connection with the same burst speed that I get now should TS have the capacity to send it through unused bandwidth, but with the added bonus of a 1mbit upload connection. All with the same 300gb cap limit.
I can do this because I have QOS on my router that allows for my own traffic shaping.
This would definitley shift my usage habits outside of the peak hours, allow me to get more of the media that I want at times that won't hurt the ntework, and reward me with a greater uplink during the quiet day times that would allow me to upload videos to youtube and dropbox much faster. |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress
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First, THANK YOU, for using the term 'Bandwidth' properly !
I already manually do some of my own habit-shaping, and also sometimes use uT's scheduler to limit bandwidth demand, except for 2AM-8AM, especially if I have large files to pull.
Still, I can download during peak, but one way or another will limit my Bandwidth demand at that time.
TSI's 'Zap the Cap' idea defines REAL peak period as 8PM-Midnight, and is the period during which I avoid uncontrolled downloads anyway, for the same reasons which you explained. |
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 El QuintronCancel Culture Ambassador
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to TSI Marc
I haven't been following this thread too closely, but I'm wondering if TSI has seen any improvements since implementing ZTC. |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress
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Yes, that would be worthwhile info to share here.  |
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 HiVolt
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join:2000-12-28
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to El Quintron
said by El Quintron:I haven't been following this thread too closely, but I'm wondering if TSI has seen any improvements since implementing ZTC. My guess it's probably too early, and also the usage meter being broken could also affect it people might be turning it off. |
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fefrie
join:2012-08-17
Vancouver, BC
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said by Davesnothere:First, THANK YOU, for using the term 'Bandwidth' properly ! Yeah, I wish people would understand it correctly. If I were to use a water analogy, data would be the water, and bandwidth would be the pipe that brings it to you. Customers pay for the size of pipe that comes into the house, be it 1/2 inch or 6 inch, and in the case of internet service, the 'water' is essentially free. Ok since people won't understand this, let the flaming begin... |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress
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said by fefrie:OK, since people won't understand this, let the flaming begin... Exactly, hehehe....  |
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mikee
join:2012-12-21
Gloucester, ON |
to TSI Marc
It is now April 1st, is it officially going live now? |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress
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Are you JOKING ?  |
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