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MaynardKrebs
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Re: WTF are Canadian universities thinking???

said by Guspaz:

I don't see government security being a concern, because CSEC is going to give everything to the NSA anyhow.

Not if it's hosted in Canada.

and even if they don't, a lot of Canadian traffic travels through the US), so having stuff hosted domestically doesn't matter

Not if it's routed in Canada.

Hypothetically, what if a professor (or grad student's) research is stored on Google and is scarfed up before it's patented and instead handed to a US company to patent, what loss is it to Canada?

What do you figure the patent to the next insulin is worth? Or the next viagra? As an example, Tagamet (a heartburn/anti-ulcer treatment) made the company that invented it billions of dollars over its patent period from the early 1980's onwards.

For years the US complained bitterly about the DGSE of France doing EXACTLY sort of thing in terms of industrial espionage on US companies and universities. Only back then it was not done electronically. Today it's MUCH easier to steal the work of taxpayer-funded research than ever before, and that is being done by State actors like the NSA.

We bitch and moan as a country about job losses & brain drain. Why hand our stuff on a silver platter to the US - just to save $100k per year?

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said by MaynardKrebs:

Hypothetically, what if a professor (or grad student's) research is stored on Google and is scarfed up before it's patented and instead handed to a US company to patent, what loss is it to Canada?

Mail servers are public shared systems open to attacks, mail left on servers are usually stored in plain text or have readily accessible encryption/decryption keys for local storage encryption, server admins or any technical staff who manage the databases, disk arrays, wembail software, etc. can potentially come across mail content by accident so email through mail servers should be treated as public/non-secret.

If you are genuinely concerned with the security of your email contents, you should be using encryption to make interception useless on its own.


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said by MaynardKrebs:

Not if it's hosted in Canada.

You are incredibly naive if that's what you think.


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I was going to say. If it's in Canada, either the NSA (or someone else) has compromised it, or a domestic agency is tapping it. To assume otherwise is naive. These are the people who completely compromised the entire TLS/HTTPS system, after all. If they want to read your e-mail, nothing is going to stop them.
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Gone
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Exactly. The CSE and NSA are in complete cahoots with one another. To assume anything otherwise is so naive it's outright laughable.


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said by Gone:

Exactly. The CSE and NSA are in complete cahoots with one another. To assume anything otherwise is so naive it's outright laughable.

Anything with a wire connected to it can be spied upon by 'the powers that be'.

Including those wishing to enact a North American Union controlled by Washington DC through the use of clandestine economic warfare and undermining of Canadian sovereignty.

If you enjoy the trip given to you by massive doses of Risperdal, Zyprexa, and Seroquel in a straight jacket. Never put your "world saving research" on a computer at all.

They will get it and steal it from you anyways. :P

You could also encode it like the alchemists did to save themselves from being burned at the stake too.