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Re: IPv6 Update

Haven't had my laptop plugged in tonight so I can't test actual throughput, but for what it's worth with Victec my Chromecast has no problem streaming HD content where it would choke with Shibby. Very pleased with everything thus far.

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Please note this is BETA version of firmware, Victek is updating this firmware very often, but, if there is no issues, i see no point of updating, really.. so far, i am happy with it, more then happy then i was with sibby's.

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I'm happy to announce that we're ready for a limited private beta for IPv6.

What is the status of AS577 offering v6 transit?

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said by damir:

Please note this is BETA version of firmware, Victek is updating this firmware very often, but, if there is no issues, i see no point of updating, really.. so far, i am happy with it, more then happy then i was with sibby's.

I've run into some very weird quirks with wireless but so far I've been able to work around them.

As far as I can tell, wireless throughput doesn't seem any different. It might be a bit slower. The improved Chromecast performance tells me that even though throughput might be lower, the actual performance is more consistent.

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weird :\ did you try different channels?
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Success! I had to re-flash from shibby to victek. Settings are the same as damir's.

For some reason my firefox install had about:config network.dns.disableIPv6 set to true! Changed that around and it works.

(edit! IPv4 Performance) Performance seems unaffected .

Great work Rocca!
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One issue that I'm running into IPV6 is with youtube. On IPV6 i'm getting "The uploader has not made this video available in your country". If i use ipv4, I do not see that message and able to watch the video.

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said by damir:

weird :\ did you try different channels?

Yes.

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Increasing transmission power? it is set default to 0, i bumped it to 85, ppl in forums say its safe, maybe you can give it a try.

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said by damir:

there is a bug on shibby, yep, i am using Victek's , everything runs fine.

Does (or will) the work around addressed in

»Re: TomatoUSB and Comcast IPv6 -- bugs found

work on shibby's firmware?

Thank you

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never tried, using Victeks atm

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said by SeeDrs:

One issue that I'm running into IPV6 is with youtube. On IPV6 i'm getting "The uploader has not made this video available in your country". If i use ipv4, I do not see that message and able to watch the video.

The IPv6 block is registered to Canada properly. Do you have alternate DNS or a proxy that would impact your IPv4?

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said by damir:

Increasing transmission power? it is set default to 0, i bumped it to 85, ppl in forums say its safe, maybe you can give it a try.

Boosting 2.4GHz to 90 is one of the first things I do. I haven't done any sort of thorough testing, so it could be the same for all I know.
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I'm actually using google's DNS for both ipv4 and ipv6. I did switched to start's dns and still received the same message.

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Can you PM me the URL of the video? I can check if I get the same message.
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Anyone know of a good ipv6 speedtest site? I've tried »speedtest.comcast.net/ (it only gets through the ipv4 part and hangs), and »ipv6-test.com/speedtest/ (it gives me laughable results (yes I'm fairly certain I'm not on a 153Kbit connection - that increases to 658Kbit over ipv6!))

So far I find that ping triples over ipv6 - I'm not sure if this is due to the tunnel, my router, or simply different servers:

$ ping google.ca
PING google.ca (173.194.43.120) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from yyz08s10-in-f24.1e100.net (173.194.43.120): icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=10.7 ms
64 bytes from yyz08s10-in-f24.1e100.net (173.194.43.120): icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=11.6 ms
64 bytes from yyz08s10-in-f24.1e100.net (173.194.43.120): icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=11.9 ms
64 bytes from yyz08s10-in-f24.1e100.net (173.194.43.120): icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=11.9 ms

$ ping6 google.ca
PING google.ca(yyz08s10-in-x18.1e100.net) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from yyz08s10-in-x18.1e100.net: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=35.7 ms
64 bytes from yyz08s10-in-x18.1e100.net: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=35.1 ms
64 bytes from yyz08s10-in-x18.1e100.net: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=33.6 ms
64 bytes from yyz08s10-in-x18.1e100.net: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=34.3 ms

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It's been my experience that IPv6 latency is higher no matter what you do. 30ms still isn't that bad.

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Google latency will be higher for a few days, we're working with them to get our IPv6 peering up. Should be done this week I'd expect.

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said by rocca:

Google latency will be higher for a few days, we're working with them to get our IPv6 peering up. Should be done this week I'd expect.

How come the first day i setup ipv6, latency was lower, if ipv6 peering with google wasnt up?

Pinging google.com [2607:f8b0:400b:80b::1003] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::1003: time=11ms
Reply from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::1003: time=16ms
Reply from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::1003: time=12ms
Reply from 2607:f8b0:400b:80b::1003: time=10ms

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No clue, but I seem to recall the exact same thing happening last time and it took a week to settle out. I suspect they have systems that generate metrics and update DNS resolutions accordingly.
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That makes sense.

I'm also noticing some youtube videos work very poorly over IPv6 vs IPv4. Dash seems to buffer some, then not get around to buffering the next chunk of the video in time - causing a delay, then a conclusion that the network is too slow, followed by s switch to a lower quality, which eventually races in. Then Dash realizes the network is actually faster than it thought and switches to a higher quality, which again races in. Dash then stops buffering for a bit, and doesn't get around to buffering the next chunk until it's too late, and the cycle repeats. It's very video selective - happening on maybe 10% of the videos I see (both firefox and chromium).

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I've seen that on a few as well, again only a few videos. I suspect some of the storage clusters don't have the optimal route back to us yet. This always seems to happen with new address blocks for a few days.
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cool. Can't wait for that to sort itself out.
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said by Gone:

It's been my experience that IPv6 latency is higher no matter what you do. 30ms still isn't that bad.

That hasn't been my experience. Many destinations v6 latency is lower.

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said by rocca:

It's also impossible to do native on cable platforms at this time.

That is painfully obvious and beside the point.
said by rocca:

Native IPv6 for DSL will be along shortly, just need to deal with some accounting issues for the prefix delegations.

Great. Then I'll give you props.

do you consider IPv6 delivered over a DSL PPPoE connection to be native? Since the PPPoE session, inherently, is tunneled over L2TP to the service provider, is it in your view native or not?

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said by martyb1:

do you consider IPv6 delivered over a DSL PPPoE connection to be native?

Of course. That is the whole point.

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L2TP is tunnelled over IPv4 in almost the exact way 6RD is.
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