 elwoodbluesElwood Blues
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Virtualizing Backup execHas anyone tried to virtualize backupexec? I'm taking over a facility shortly and one of my goals is virtualize has much as possible. Right now they're using some odd ball backup software (Comvault) that I'd never heard/seen of before. The plan is move it to backupexec.
I'm trying to eliminate as much physical hardware has possible. I've verified the controller and tapebackup are supported by ESX .5.5 but haven't checked on BE yet. |
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mikefxu
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mikefxu
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2014-Mar-19 10:39 am
I am running Backup Exec 2010 R3 on ESXi 5.0.0. All I use it for is for tape backup of Veeam files for offsite. The newest version of Veeam has tape backup capability now but I haven't updated yet or checked compatibility. |
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 donoreo
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Commvault is really quite good as well, it does have a very different way of doing things. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues
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said by donoreo:Commvault is really quite good as well, it does have a very different way of doing things. I can't stand it, it takes me an hour every Monday to change out the tapes and relabel (update barcode). It's insane how much work I have to go through, thus back to my gold standard of BE. |
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 Weasel
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When I ran BE, I ran it virtualized, but I dump my data to iSCSI targets (D2D2D), I don't use tape.
Assuming ESX and BE support it, I would expect it to work. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues
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said by Weasel:When I ran BE, I ran it virtualized, but I dump my data to iSCSI targets (D2D2D), I don't use tape.
Assuming ESX and BE support it, I would expect it to work. That's another thought too, I was planning on dumping to an LTO6, I did verify that the hardware I want is supported by ESX, BE is the $64 question for me. |
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where are you guys connecting the tape drive to? does it connect directly to a host? |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues
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At this point nothing, but in theory yes I connect it to the host, and it's a pass through to the VM. |
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Weasel
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Other thing: Are you going to be able to go 100% virtual? If so, I highly recommend Veeam over BE. I switched this fall and wish I had sooner. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues
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said by Weasel:Other thing: Are you going to be able to go 100% virtual? If so, I highly recommend Veeam over BE. I switched this fall and wish I had sooner. No, I have a enterprise based application that runs over (currently 4) servers and connects to a DB. The "server" I plan to use is reasonably hefty but I don't see those servers being virtualized. |
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mikefxu
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said by tomdlgns:where are you guys connecting the tape drive to? does it connect directly to a host? Yes. said by elwoodblues:At this point nothing, but in theory yes I connect it to the host, and it's a pass through to the VM. This is what I do. |
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LMosla
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Make sure and have Backup Exec fully patched with updates and service patches.
You can virtualize your media server and directly attach to a tape drive or even better backup to a NAS.
Lenora
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I actually like CommVault alot. I used it my business and it worked great for us. BE was horrible for us. I had a tape Rack with a huge 400 tape library and auto changer. Never had to worry about the tapes, since my decks just bar code scanned the barcode on the tapes.
My problem even the newer decks are slow as sin. So only weekly fulls went there. commvault handled everything else.
amerivault / venyu /what ever it is now was also quite unique. My restore from commvault were so easy that it was great. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues
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I've got an antique of an auto loader using SuperDLT tapes the clown I'm taking over from barely backed anything up, claiming it was faster to rebuild from scratch then restore from tape.
Comvault to me, is a pain, I have put new tapes in the autoloader, then inventory them, then delete the contents, then delete the tapes and relablel them.
No f'n thanks, I'm planning on putting an LTO6 drive in place, that will backup everything quite nicely. |
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i run 24 lto drives in my space. buy pre coded tapes... or get the lto6 id tagger. I bought mine from IBM and had the tape loader robot setup to read the barcode and verify before injecting.
Sounds like you work for a dealership chain I know. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues
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I've run into a snag testing. I'm getting this error trying to create snapshots of the VM quote:
Final error: 0xe0009574 - Unable to create a snapshot of the virtual machine. The virtual machine may be too busy to quiesce to take the snapshot.
According to Symantec, you need to make sure the Vmtools VSS driver is installed or the Symantec one (after pushing the remote agent, it removes the Vmtools one and installs it's own). So I've verified all that , but cannot backup the Vm's ,I haven';t tried just the OS with the agent yet. Suggestions? Edit: When I backup the OS (not the VM proper) it's working fine using the RAWS agent. |
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LMosla
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LMosla
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2014-Mar-27 3:24 pm
this error can occur when: the Backup Exec System Account doesnt have Administrator rights on the ESX machine. the guest machine is in a Fault Tolerate configuration (the virtual machine has to be backed up as a physical server) If the VMware-Tools Service within the guest operating system needs to be updated or restarted, if there are existing snapshots on the guest vm (delete the snapshots for the guest machines on the ESX / Vsphere Host using the snapshot manager) , also if you do not have the vStorage API license refer: » www.symantec.com/docs/TECH146397and » www.symantec.com/docs/TECH160152 |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues
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Thanks very much LMosla, yes it's the "free" version (till I get my licences) so I have no API to the snapshot and backup. |
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