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graniterock
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Re: New machine

said by me1212:

an i5 will work fine. Its not so much the extra threads, but they can help, as much as it is the higher cache and clock speed the i7 usually have. Overclock the i5 and you should be fine, for the majority of games. Which game(s) were you making you consider the i7?

For me personally there is no particular game I want to play in that category but I like to look at current game requirements to see what the future holds. Wolfenstein was that game I saw that had that minimum requirement: »store.steampowered.com/a ··· 7_15__13
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That needs an i7 920, 2.6ghz processor. A modern i5 is fine still. Sure stuff like crysis 3 that uses physics on freaking everything can benefit from an i7, but even there my i5 plays just fine. That said if you want an i7 and can afford an i7 then get it.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£152.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (£14.66 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£60.32 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£113.50 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.70 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (£179.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Xigmatek Recon ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.63 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.93 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.32 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.65 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £810.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Gone for a slightly cheaper SSD and removed the monitor. Will use a VGA adaptor for a few months. I have a ps2 keyboard and it looks like the motherboard has that slot but it's half green half purple. My mouse is usb. I won't need a new keyboard as well will I?

Ordering tomorrow.

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Looks good.
I'd just go with Win8.1 though.
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No you shouldn't need a new keyboard. It is color coded for either mouse or keyboard. That is why it is purple and green.

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Awesome thanks guys.

Can I turn the "touch screen" home screen of Windows 8 off in 8.1? So it boots to a bog standard desktop?

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Yeah. With 8.1 and a program like classic shell, you can completely skip their home screen and use the desktop like in win7

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My Windows 8.1 Update 1 boots directly to the Desktop. Only when I click the "Start" button does it go to that funky app area.
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use classic shell, free, or star is back not free but uses less resources.

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Same here. Although I still get tricked into hitting the windows key on my keyboard occasionally. Likely because I have 7 at work. But 8.1 boots to the desktop.

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Parts are starting to arrive. The GFX card is fucking huge. At least 3 times bigger than any I've seen before.

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said by Cat5:

At least 3 times bigger than any I've seen before.

TWSS

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All built. No Windows yet so no chance to play with it but it all turns on.

I have a couple of silly questions however, the first concerning the GFX card power. It came with 2 power leads which obviously go in the card but the other end of each cable has 2 x molex connectors. The PSU has a cable for molex but I've had to use all 4 molex connectors on this cable . It works, just seems a bit of a long winded way to do it.

Secondly the PSU has these slots.

»tpucdn.com/reviews/Corsa ··· mall.jpg

Are all the 3x2's the same? Just the wording seems odd. I have 3 SATA devices but the cable won't reach the third as the bay faces right angle to the other 2. So I need two of the slots for SATA and then a third for the GFX card chain. I assume this is safe?

Thanks a lot

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The 6-pin pci to 4 pin molex is for compatibility. Some older power supplies do not have PCI-E 6-pin connectors (or have one, but not two).

The 3x2 connectors are all the same on the PSU.

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said by Cat5:

No Windows yet so no chance to play with it but it all turns on.

Got a Linux Live CD?
»distrowatch.com/table.ph ··· ion=mint

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said by Harddrive:

said by Cat5:

No Windows yet so no chance to play with it but it all turns on.

Got a Linux Live CD?
»distrowatch.com/table.ph ··· ion=mint

I'd go this route as well in the meantime, it'll at least let you test drive your computer, even if it won't give you the opportunity to do a lot of gaming.
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Those are adapters that came with the graphics card. You don't need to use them as you have 2 6+2 pin pci-express connectors. The 6+2 means they have 2 pins that breakaway so they can fit in either 6 or 8 pin pci-express connections. Your card needs one 6 pin and one 8 pin so you would put the full 6+2 in one and only 6 pins of the other (without the 2 pin breakaway). You can see this on image C here:

»www.techpowerup.com/revi ··· ose1.jpg

NOTE don't confuse this with B, which is your 8 pin eps/atx12v which should be keyed differently(but you might still be able to use it improperly if you try to force it in). The eps should be one of the non-modular cables that came preattached and the pci-express should be modular but double check it as they should be marked.

Then you shouldn't need any additional connectors for the graphics card (no 4 pin molex etc.)

edit:
certainly try linux out on it if you don't have a copy of windows. You might find you don't need windows any more. Some games are finicky on linux but many games will run under wine.

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Thanks guys, all ready to rock and roll once Windows arrives.

I did try to test with Vista but I got a blank screen / freezing after it started. I checked and it seems Vista doesn't like modern machines so fingers crossed it is just that.
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All up and running, boots super fast, runs WoW at max with no issues (60+ FPS even in Org) and it isn't having issues with Batman Arkham Asylum at max either. GTAV will be the biggest challenge but I doubt it will struggle.

Thanks for all your help.

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said by Cat5:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£152.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (£14.66 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£60.32 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£113.50 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.70 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (£179.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Xigmatek Recon ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.63 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.93 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.32 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.65 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £810.24

Nice job Cat.

Was this your final build?

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said by Snuffbox:

said by Cat5:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£152.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (£14.66 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£60.32 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£113.50 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.70 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (£179.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Xigmatek Recon ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.63 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.93 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.32 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£69.65 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £810.24

Nice job Cat.

Was this your final build?

Not quite.

The case arrived damaged so I had to get a replacement. SPEC-03 Corsair. I also went with Windows 8.1

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You gotta get us some pics of the final build. Hope you like it man, specs look good. Should last you quite awhile

I'm doing almost a full rebuild this weekend. New case, Sleeved Cables, SSD, CPU cooler, Fans, and Windows 8.1. I'll have a bunch of hardware porn pictures for you guys

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Awesome! What care are you getting?

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Pics or it didn't happen!
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you have an amd card and gtaV is supposed to use mantle, you'll be fine.

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said by El Quintron:

Awesome! What care are you getting?

Corsair 750D

Got it already. It's really nice. The amount of space in a full tower is staggering. Should make for a really clean build when it's done.

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said by Ghastlyone:

The amount of space in a full tower is staggering.

It is, I have a large mid-tower and my wife has a full tower, she's probably got twice as much space as I do.

From what I've seen, your builds are really clean so you'll be able to do some awesome stuff with that. Looking forward to the pics.

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said by El Quintron:

said by Ghastlyone:

The amount of space in a full tower is staggering.

It is, I have a large mid-tower and my wife has a full tower, she's probably got twice as much space as I do.

From what I've seen, your builds are really clean so you'll be able to do some awesome stuff with that. Looking forward to the pics.

Thanks. I figure If I can cable manage that Rosewill Blackhawk decently, that 750D should be a breeze.

All my new Noctua Redux fans and Corsair Metallic Graphite sleeved cables should go nicely with the greyish tone of ACX 780's. So I'll definitely have some pics for you guys

Now we just need to get some from Cat666