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Anon

AT&T UVerse Online Lag

I have Uverse for online gaming. I play a few online games and for some reason I get really high latency/ping to places im close to. Any server in Northern California I get 80-90+ping, im located in Southern California. Places like Texas I also receive 90+ ping. When I lived in MN i would get ~40 ping from MN to California. Not sure what the problem is.
Here's an example of one from Northern California. #10

C:\Users\ix007>tracert 8.17.250.36

Tracing route to host.colocrossing.com [8.17.250.36]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 1 ms 4 ms dlinkrouter [192.168.0.1]
2 10 ms 12 ms 8 ms homeportal [192.168.1.254]
3 42 ms 68 ms 65 ms ***.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [10
7.]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 38 ms 57 ms 45 ms 12.83.38.157
6 51 ms 44 ms 49 ms 12.123.132.137
7 52 ms 58 ms 58 ms be2001.ccr23.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.13
.149]
8 51 ms 58 ms 56 ms be2181.mpd21.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.41
.113]
9 60 ms 58 ms 56 ms be2160.ccr21.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.27
.162]
10 60 ms 62 ms 59 ms te7-2.ccr01.sjc05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.84.
54]
11 73 ms 88 ms 78 ms 38.122.92.186
12 81 ms 78 ms 88 ms 72.13.94.13
13 74 ms 77 ms 80 ms 173.245.71.178
14 76 ms 79 ms 68 ms host.colocrossing.com [8.17.250.36]
CplEstesUSMC
join:2005-02-16
Douglasville, GA

CplEstesUSMC

Member

Maybe not the root cause but you're double-natting which is a small drag on performance. You can either setup the d-link router in access-point mode

or

setup the router as an IP Passthrough or dmzplus depending on your RG, I have found that my asus rt-n66u NATs MUCH better than the RG so I have the latter.

mindlesstux
join:2004-09-20
Wake Forest, NC
ARRIS SB6183
MikroTik hAP AC

mindlesstux to Austin

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to Austin
Breaking it down,
Inside your home you have 10ms> (really should be faster) which isn't bad.
The hop to the ATT network does a +40-60 ms alone. This is likely due to all uverse vdsl2 (and adsl2+?) connections are interleaved, no way around that at this time.
From there each hop after that added 1-7ms of latency, including crossing into cogentco network.
When your path leaves cogentco it does another +10ms and again does +1-3ms for each hop after that.

So my recommendations, try out cable see if they have better "first" hop latency OR do what I have done for the past 10 years or so playing with 120-160ms ping times, lead your shots.

NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
TP-Link TD-8616
Asus RT-AC66U B1
Netgear FR114P

NormanS to Austin

MVM

to Austin
What is going on with that D-Link router? Should look more like this:
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Chihiro [192.168.102.1]
 

When I was running cascaded NAT, the modem NAT device was always under 1 ms; same as the router.

mindlesstux
join:2004-09-20
Wake Forest, NC
ARRIS SB6183
MikroTik hAP AC

mindlesstux to Austin

Member

to Austin
A quick thought, the +40-60ms hop to att does see high. You would not happen to be running any sort of bittorrent/fileshare program at the time of that traceroute would you?

Just for giggles I ran a trace to the same server from my connection and noted my initial hop is lower, but I see packetloss and slightly higher ping times due to right now I am saturating my downstream and upstream. (Looks like I have a little work todo on fixing my dmz'ed router queues.)

                                           My traceroute  [v0.85]
hephaestos (0.0.0.0)                                                                Tue Apr  8 18:29:24 2014
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                                                    Packets               Pings
 Host                                                             Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. router                                                         0.0%    47    0.5   0.4   0.2   0.6   0.0
 2. ???
 3. 99-62-16-3.lightspeed.chrlnc.sbcglobal.net                    87.2%    47   25.6  29.4  25.6  33.6   3.1
 4. 99.133.205.46                                                 82.2%    46   26.0  26.8  25.7  27.6   0.5
 5. 99.133.205.16                                                 88.9%    46   28.5  28.2  26.7  29.5   0.7
 6. 99.133.205.59                                                 100.0    46    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 7. 12.83.102.141                                                  4.3%    46   45.5  49.5  38.0  61.3   4.7
 8. 12.122.154.162                                                 2.2%    46   65.0  62.1  47.1  73.8   5.3
 9. cr2.attga.ip.att.net                                           8.7%    46   64.0  63.9  52.4  91.9   6.5
10. 12.122.117.121                                                 4.3%    46   68.2  63.1  52.3  73.7   4.3
11. 192.205.36.158                                                 8.7%    46   65.0  61.2  51.9  71.3   4.2
12. ???
13. ae-7.r21.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net                            8.7%    46   80.7  83.7  71.2 116.7  10.7
14. ae-4.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net                            2.2%    46  116.1 125.4 106.8 148.5   7.8
15. ae-2.r07.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net                            0.0%    46  124.5 120.8 104.2 136.5   5.3
16. xe-0-6-0-29.r07.snjsca04.us.ce.gin.ntt.net                     8.7%    46  127.8 144.0 115.0 781.7 101.0
17. 173.245.71.178                                                 0.0%    46  125.0 123.2 109.0 140.7   7.0
18. host.colocrossing.com                                          8.7%    46  125.6 125.1 111.9 142.5   6.6
 
 
ix007
join:2014-04-08
Anaheim, CA

ix007

Member

Appreciate the replies everyone!
said by mindlesstux:

A quick thought, the +40-60ms hop to att does see high. You would not happen to be running any sort of bittorrent/fileshare program at the time of that traceroute would you?

Nope wasn't running anything of the sort at the time.
said by NormanS:

What is going on with that D-Link router? Should look more like this:

the dlinkrouter -> homeportal is because I don't have any dedicated ethernet oulets in my house, so I am running it one of these internet through powerline adapters
»www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-P ··· 036R9YA6 to the dlink router so upstairs and downstairs has solid wifi/direct lines we can plug into. It instantly rose all the download speeds.
said by CplEstesUSMC:

Maybe not the root cause but you're double-natting which is a small drag on performance. You can either setup the d-link router in access-point mode

or

setup the router as an IP Passthrough or dmzplus depending on your RG, I have found that my asus rt-n66u NATs MUCH better than the RG so I have the latter.

I may try that to see how it works out.

Thanks again for the help!

NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
TP-Link TD-8616
Asus RT-AC66U B1
Netgear FR114P

NormanS

MVM

said by ix007:

said by NormanS:

What is going on with that D-Link router? Should look more like this:

the dlinkrouter -> homeportal is because I don't have any dedicated ethernet oulets in my house, so I am running it one of these internet through powerline adapters
»www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-P ··· 036R9YA6 to the dlink router so upstairs and downstairs has solid wifi/direct lines we can plug into. It instantly rose all the download speeds.

So the greater latency must be an artifact of the powerline adapters. I am glad I took the trouble to retrofit my (at the time) 39 1/2-year-old house with wired Ethernet.
heyimmvp
join:2014-04-10
united state

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I've recently switched from adsl2 to uverse adsl2+ and my ping has increased by about 30ms on the average to most of the game servers I play on. I'm hoping to get my data path changed.
ix007
join:2014-04-08
Anaheim, CA

ix007

Member

Let me know if that works for you!
Paralel
join:2011-03-24
Michigan, US

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Powerline adapters are well known for introducing significant latency