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zacsaunders

join:2012-05-12
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL

New Rogers Internet Speeds

Not sure if this was posted yet but rogers changed all their packages...
»www.rogers.com/web/conte ··· t_slot-3

Not sure what to think of it, I like the upload speeds.. just hope TPIAs can get decently priced access to them


damir

join:2013-12-12
CANADA
uh huh ... this is going to be ........


damir

join:2013-12-12
CANADA
Their 150\15 package is pretty good, unlimited i mean ...


AppleGuy
Premium
join:2013-09-08
Canada
reply to zacsaunders
Welcome to your semi-annual bill increase, coming to you in October, due to our enhancements today.


diskace
Electronic Box CEO
Premium,VIP
join:2002-02-21
kudos:3
pricing is not good so far. +5-6$/month over the old rates.


AppleGuy
Premium
join:2013-09-08
Canada
Reviews:
·WIND Mobile
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·voip.ms
said by diskace:

pricing is not good so far. +5-6$/month over the old rates.

Yes, we increased prices because of these enhancements. We'll increase them again in October for your pleasure!

resa1983
Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:10
reply to diskace
said by diskace:

pricing is not good so far. +5-6$/month over the old rates.

They've filed a Tariff Notice? Its not up yet on CRTC's site.. Any chance you can post a pdf?
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diskace
Electronic Box CEO
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confused123

@start.ca
does it mean that on may 1 all isps will be upgreaded to these speeds?

resa1983
Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:10
reply to diskace
Thanks diskace.
I've added it to the spreadsheet.

»docs.google.com/spreadsh ··· =sharing
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resa1983
Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:10
reply to confused123
said by confused123 :

does it mean that on may 1 all isps will be upgreaded to these speeds?

No.. They're grandfathering all old speeds, so unless you ask for a new speed from your ISP you won't get it - thats if your ISP is able to get the cost studies done quickly enough and figure out pricing.

These speeds go live for TPIA April 16th it looks.
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confused123

@start.ca
but, we can ask for new speeds our current provider? start? tsi? ebox? etc.
price will be different, of course, but, they must provide this or ? thanks


BThunderW

join:2010-02-16
Cambridge, ON
reply to zacsaunders
Why would the 10/60 charge ($28) be higher than 10/150 ($23)?

resa1983
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reply to confused123
said by confused123 :

but, we can ask for new speeds our current provider? start? tsi? ebox? etc.
price will be different, of course, but, they must provide this or ? thanks

If your ISP is willing to provide it (ratio is horrible for 250/20 due to CBB rates). They don't have to provide the new speeds, but amany will.
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resa1983
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North York, ON
kudos:10
reply to BThunderW
said by BThunderW:

Why would the 10/60 charge ($28) be higher than 10/150 ($23)?

To provide higher uploads to all, they'll have to do additional node splits, and continue with the analog -> digital conversion for tv for the additional spectrum.
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elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
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join:2006-08-30
Somewhere in
kudos:2
Reviews:
·VMedia
reply to resa1983
That's the red herring Ressy, if TPIA providers are paying CBB, who gives a flying F what the speeds are, it doesn't cost any more to "go fast" it's about how much data you consume at that speed (CBB).
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resa1983
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join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:10
If someone uses their 250/20 connection at full connection 24/7 for a month, it costs the TPIA provider ~$3500. They need to do a cost analysis.

And at that point, it's cheaper for the TPIA provider to tell you to take a hike to Rogers.
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elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
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Somewhere in
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Reviews:
·VMedia
I meant the filing of new tariffs. I fully understand costs and the TPIA providers have to figure out what costs are. (I dunno if I could find enough "content" to fill a 250 connection 24/7)
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confused123

@start.ca
reply to resa1983
said by resa1983:

If someone uses their 250/20 connection at full connection 24/7 for a month, it costs the TPIA provider ~$3500. They need to do a cost analysis.

And at that point, it's cheaper for the TPIA provider to tell you to take a hike to Rogers.

how much it costs Rogers?

even their tier 150\15 which is very good in my opinion, and very well priced, is this truly unlimited with rogers? *for $25*

resa1983
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reply to elwoodblues
said by elwoodblues:

I meant the filing of new tariffs. I fully understand costs and the TPIA providers have to figure out what costs are. (I dunno if I could find enough "content" to fill a 250 connection 24/7)

Ah yeah.
I bet Angelo could find a use for that connection.
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Teddy Boom
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Toronto, ON
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reply to resa1983
said by resa1983:

To provide higher uploads to all, they'll have to do additional node splits, and continue with the analog -> digital conversion for tv for the additional spectrum.

Have we lost you to the dark side?

Honestly, these price increases are huge, and a big problem. Indies have virtually no room to compete for either low need or high usage users now.
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resa1983
Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:10
Never.

I'm just acknowledging the plain fact that yes, Rogers does have increased costs to provide the higher upload. Whether they're THAT high is questionable. I guess we'll find out when they file a cost study and the CRTC goes over it with a fine toothed comb.

The price increases are quite large, compounded by the increasing capacity requirements to support the speed increases.

The markup is too high. Wholesale should be classed as an essential service, which would be a lower markup.
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oceros

join:2013-07-20
St Thomas, ON
Reviews:
·Rogers Hi-Speed
reply to BThunderW
said by BThunderW:

Why would the 10/60 charge ($28) be higher than 10/150 ($23)?

$23 is the current for 150/10. There is a proposed increase to $33 for 150/10.

So it would stand to reason Rogers would follow their own proposed pricing as opposed to the current, when looking at the new tiers.

MFido

join:2012-10-19
kudos:2
reply to zacsaunders
From what I see, one option for TPIAs is to take the exisiting 150M/10M - $23.32 and to shape it down to whatever speed profiles they desire (similar with what Start does now).

Is this still possible?

resa1983
Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:10
said by MFido:

From what I see, one option for TPIAs is to take the exisiting 150M/10M - $23.32 and to shape it down to whatever speed profiles they desire (similar with what Start does now).

Is this still possible?

Once April 16th rolls around, nobody new can go on 150/10. Its being grandfathered.
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MFido

join:2012-10-19
kudos:2
ouch!


TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
reply to resa1983
April 16th 2013 is long gone Ressy, that's for the older tiers that from when before the Aggregate POI introduction.

It does say current tiers like the 150/10 will be grandfathered but not when.


elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
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join:2006-08-30
Somewhere in
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Reviews:
·VMedia
reply to resa1983
said by resa1983:

said by elwoodblues:

I meant the filing of new tariffs. I fully understand costs and the TPIA providers have to figure out what costs are. (I dunno if I could find enough "content" to fill a 250 connection 24/7)

Ah yeah.
I bet Angelo could find a use for that connection.

He's working for Teksavvy, he's got the entire backbone to leech the Internet dry every day.
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TSI Marc
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join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:28

1 recommendation

reply to zacsaunders
Second tariff was filled today also to removed existing tiers. They are asking for current tiers to be grandfathered on June 16th.
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resa1983
Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:10

1 recommendation

reply to elwoodblues
said by elwoodblues:

He's working for Teksavvy, he's got the entire backbone to leech the Internet dry every day.

He's working elsewhere since Dec.
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