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Subaru
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asbestos ceiling tiles?

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I'm pretty sure they are but I want other opinions.. A few tiles are missing or dropped to floor.


DarkHelmet

join:2014-02-21
You're never going to know without testing. I have ceiling tiles in my basement that look exactly like that but they don't contain asbestos at all.


Subaru
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Well let's say its from 1963

garys_2k
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Farmington, MI
reply to Subaru
Likely? Sure. Definitely? Need to test.

iknow_t

join:2012-05-03
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I'll bet those are just cellulose fireproof tiles, just like the roof insulation sold. they are NOT WHITE, but gray.. you wouldn't want those safe tiles falling in your dinner, though.. or on your bed while sleeping. they can be properly fixed..


chip89
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Independence, OH
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I would get out of there that really looks like asbestos!


Subaru
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Can local places test the tiles or do I have to send a sample and wait for the results?

Lots of areas around here have tiles missing or stuff that fell to the floor.. I only ask before I start cleaning my office space and doing above ceiling work.


DarkHelmet

join:2014-02-21

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reply to chip89
said by chip89:

I would get out of there that really looks like asbestos!

How can you tell? How about lead in the paint? Can you see that too?

"Dangerous asbestos fibers are too small to be visible."


DarkHelmet

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said by Subaru:

Can local places test the tiles or do I have to send a sample and wait for the results?

Lots of areas around here have tiles missing or stuff that fell to the floor.. I only ask before I start cleaning my office space and doing above ceiling work.

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Odds are extremely good they contain asbestos. It wasn't until sometime in the early 1990's that they stopped manufacturing these with asbestos.

This more than likely is not a do-it-yourself project. Improper removal can contaminate the entire structure and put those who inhabit the building at serious risk of exposure.
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chip89
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reply to DarkHelmet
can usually get a clue by the color of the tiles Asbestos is only a few colors.


DarkHelmet

join:2014-02-21
said by chip89:

can usually get a clue by the color of the tiles Asbestos is only a few colors.

You cannot see them. Look at the picture below. I don't think you know what you're talking about.
»new.asbestosdiseaseawareness.org···de25.jpg

iknow_t

join:2012-05-03
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you should see the asbestos rope like strands sticking out of a broken part if it has asbestos. here's a list of manufacturers that have used, and have not used asbestos. look on the back of a fallen tile for the name. »inspectapedia.com/hazmat/Asbesto···#asbceil


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Found this in trash

iknow_t

join:2012-05-03
reply to DarkHelmet
said by DarkHelmet:

said by chip89:

can usually get a clue by the color of the tiles Asbestos is only a few colors.

You cannot see them. Look at the picture below. I don't think you know what you're talking about.
»new.asbestosdiseaseawareness.org···de25.jpg

that's nice, Kaspersky blocked that because it contains a dangerous resource.. maybe the site was hacked..

iknow_t

join:2012-05-03
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said by Subaru:

Found this in trash

there must be a name somewhere.. that's how you can tell, some manufacturers never used asbestos..


Subaru
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Maybe in the blue prints... I do know the fire alarm was installed in '94


DarkHelmet

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said by iknow_t:

said by DarkHelmet:

said by chip89:

can usually get a clue by the color of the tiles Asbestos is only a few colors.

You cannot see them. Look at the picture below. I don't think you know what you're talking about.
»new.asbestosdiseaseawareness.org···de25.jpg

that's nice, Kaspersky blocked that because it contains a dangerous resource.. maybe the site was hacked..

Nope. That's a perfectly fine non-profit company (501c) for asbestos awareness. It's a bad firewall filter but what can you expect from Russian software?


OldCableGuy3

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Kaspersky sucking? Must be a day that ends with Y


Boooost

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It could very well be mineral wool. But the only way to be sure is to send a sample out for testing.


Subaru
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Because they went above the tiles for the fire alarm system would the tile type be listed on the blueprints?


nunya
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You should consider them to be ACM until it's tested. Since they are fire rated, the possibility is definitely there.
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Subaru
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PrntRhd
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Two choices, first one will simply kick the can down the road.

1) Paint the tile to lock the fibers in place. Friable fiber is the threat for inhalation. Fixed (contained) fibers are safe. Don't move the tiles unless you:
2) Hire an asbestos abatement firm to remove the tiles safely.


leibold
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That is "USG ACOUSTICAL PRODUCTS CO." where USG stands for the US Gypsum Company.
The company made a number of products containing asbestos (as well as many that didn't).
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Subaru
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Yeah I'm looking at the company website and they have been around for awhile.. Still going to send some for testing first before I go cleaning and vacuuming my office area.


John Galt
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John Galt
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Look on the building plans (!) and see if there is a specification for the ceiling tiles in the area in question. You'll be looking for something called the 'reflected ceiling plan'. You might also look and see if there any specification books in the old documents. The spec book tells the builders what materials are specified for the project so they can bid on it.


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Yeah I think I saw a book like that but I have to go and look at all of that again..

Trust me when I'm done I'm going to have the blueprints separated by work done.

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reply to chip89
said by chip89:

I would get out of there that really looks like asbestos!

They should be more worried about that crappy paint job.