Barry join:2008-11-04 Burlington, ON |
Barry
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2014-Apr-28 9:31 pm
50/10 with Fibe TVIs it still pretty much impossible to use your own router for 50/10 in bridge mode and having Fibe TV? It seems to me the easiest way to go about this would be to use a TPIA with Fibe TV instead of Bell internet. Don't they realize how stupid this is? |
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SimplePandaBSD Premium Member join:2003-09-22 Montreal, QC |
said by Barry:Is it still pretty much impossible to use your own router for 50/10 in bridge mode and having Fibe TV? It seems to me the easiest way to go about this would be to use a TPIA with Fibe TV instead of Bell internet. Don't they realize how stupid this is? Just keep FibeTV with Internet for a couple of months call and threaten to cancel it on the grounds that you can't justify paying for Internet access. They'll give you $0 Internet to retain you as a TV subscriber. Then sign up for whatever third party you want for Internet access. You'll need a second line installed but it's a better solution. |
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to Barry
Nothing you stopping from using your own router for simply wireless connection which is what 99% of people use their own router for. No speed slow downs in this. "Bridging" means leaving the sagemcom in it's default state and having your own router authenticate your ppoe session. This is where the 33 mbps slow down happened. As far as I know this issue was resolved. And if it wasn't, we are switching to a new modem in a month or so. |
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to Barry
edit: wrong person :/ |
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Will the upgrade be from the sagemcom 2864? For all Fibe TV + internet customers?
Will I also need to have a technician come over for a $75 fee to change the modem or can I go change it myself? |
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Barry join:2008-11-04 Burlington, ON |
to btech805
I thought the 33mbps bridging issue still existed. Could someone on FTTN with Fibe TV post a speedtest result to prove otherwise?
I still only qualify for 25/10 (37/11 Fibe TV profile) and have asked several times if I could be put on pair bonding so I could use 50/10 and not have to worry about my bandwidth dropping when I use more than one TV stream. |
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taraf join:2011-05-07 Ottawa, ON |
taraf
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2014-Apr-29 7:40 am
said by Barry:I still only qualify for 25/10 (37/11 Fibe TV profile) and have asked several times if I could be put on pair bonding so I could use 50/10 and not have to worry about my bandwidth dropping when I use more than one TV stream. They aren't using pair bonding to push faster speeds, they're using it to extend the footprint of the 27meg profile and offer FibeTV to more people in the first place.... as far as I know there aren't actually any profiles faster than 27meg on pair bonding, and I'd be surprised if they would bother with the kind of profile you're asking for when they're in the middle of upgrading their network to fibre optic. At the risk of starting a flame war, what the heck are you doing with your connection that can't survive a drop to 24mbit (what you'd get with 2 HD TV's on, on the 37mbit profile) for a few hours? When I had roommates, we were 3 heavy user adults in the house, complete with a NAS running torrents 24/7 (I'd configured it to limit itself to 5mbit during waking hours)... I pushed over 800GB/mo on a regular basis and broke 1TB/mo several times, and nobody noticed a significant impact on their ability to surf/watch youtube/etc, nor did I ever have any problems when I decided to work from home and use the VPN. And that was on a 15/10 line. I have a really hard time believing that you're seriously in a situation where something you're doing can't survive a dip below 25mbit for a short period of time, and quite honestly, if you're actually in a situation where that's the case, your first mistake is paying for a residential service. If it's *really* that important to you that you get your 25/10 all the time, then call them and order a 2nd Internet service on a dry loop. That won't be shared with the TV service, so you won't notice a difference when you turn the TV on. |
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to Arx160le
See my post in the 25/10 topic. OP pair bonding is not offered to increase attainable speeds. Only expand the fibe tv footprint by a few hundred metres |
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JC_ Premium Member join:2010-10-19 Nepean, ON |
JC_ to Barry
Premium Member
2014-Apr-29 4:04 pm
to Barry
said by Barry:I thought the 33mbps bridging issue still existed. Could someone on FTTN with Fibe TV post a speedtest result to prove otherwise?
I still only qualify for 25/10 (37/11 Fibe TV profile) and have asked several times if I could be put on pair bonding so I could use 50/10 and not have to worry about my bandwidth dropping when I use more than one TV stream. If you can't get more the 37/11 stable on the Fibe TV profile you shouldn't have been sold 25/10 + Fibe TV, it should've been 15/10 + Fibe TV. This works out to 15Mbps for internet and 20 Mbps for TV, It's approximately 5Mbps per HD stream. |
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Barry join:2008-11-04 Burlington, ON |
to taraf
If it was a deal breaker I never would have signed up. If anything, I'd just like 50/10 even if Fibe TV cut into my bandwidth. I'm happy with the unlimited and would just like a faster connection. Is that so crazy? |
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Barry |
to JC_
Shhhh! Don't tell them that. I just asked if higher profiles are available and they said 45/8, but at the potential expense of stability and losing 2mbps off the upload. No thanks. |
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to Barry
actually my buddy just got fibetv and 3 stbs installed with 50/10 profile. just tested his line... 3 tv's going and 50/10 strong on the net. he lives in newmarket |
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Barry join:2008-11-04 Burlington, ON |
Barry
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2014-May-1 6:43 pm
Damn you, Burlington! |
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JC_ Premium Member join:2010-10-19 Nepean, ON |
to infamouskid
said by infamouskid:actually my buddy just got fibetv and 3 stbs installed with 50/10 profile. just tested his line... 3 tv's going and 50/10 strong on the net. he lives in newmarket Your friend must be on a 7330 and lives within 300-500m of it. |
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to Barry
Does anyone know what bell is gonna do for us FTTN customers now that Rogers has way better plans at comparable prices? For nearly the same price I could get 60/10 from Rogers while I only get 25/10 from Bell. |
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I wish I knew the answer to that. We swung a lot of customers from Rogers last year with our fibe offerings in fttn and ftth, however rogers is once again offering high speeds for the same or cheaper than we are. Something will have to be done and soon. I can already see in our cross boxes customers who were "triple play" customers have left, and this is in addition to previous customers of mine that I run into out and about in my personal errand running. All have said they had no issues with the service but as a consumer you go with the fastest service at the best price.
Rogers has done a lot of work in high congestion areas, and all week I can even see them have been working at the nodes on my street (in a rural area of no more than 1000 people spread out over a huge area). Already I qualify for for 250/20 with rogers. I can get 5/1 with Bell. If I was a heavy internet user, I would be gone and I am a Bell employee who receives a very good discount on my services. |
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My vdsl loop length is 1447 ft, and I live in the suburbs of Brampton. I'm currently on a 7330. Do you think bell will do anything soon, or am I now stuck on a 2 year contract with no speed improvements in sight? |
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That I have no clue of. All contracts do have an out clause though, along with the early termination fee you can always pay... |
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Is it true that if bell makes changes to a privacy policy or has a price increase on a service which affects me, I can cancel my services without incurring any fees? |
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indeed he is. i was watching the tech's webcare screen and verified the equipment on screen. 7330-vsem. distance was 92 meters. |
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to Arx160le
What do you need that you cannot get on a 1447ft loop? |
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It's not necessarily what I need. It's that Rogers now offers way better packages than bell at comparable rates, and probably will continue to do so for a long time unless Bell can squeeze more out of VDSL. |
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I think Bell is going FTTH where possible, otherwise you can just add vectoring, ghost pairs and pair bonding to increase your bandwidth. |
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