and by firearm, a rifle...no Glocks or 9mm...you'll just piss them off.
Actually at shorter range (50m and below) a handgun shot would be just as effective to stop a black bear as a rifle round. The downside is that it's not as easy to aim (especially when you're under attack) so it may take a few more shots to successfully his the bears vital areas. While the bone density of a black bear is slightly higher than a human their physionomy is very close to ours.
There is also the fact that, even with the best caliber available and the best shot placement death and immobilization are rarely instantaneous. Hunters are taught to wait 30 minutes before tracking down the animal they just shot to give it time to bleed out because if you go after it right away you face two issues: the animal can turn around and charge you or you can excite it into a frenzy which makes it's agonizing much more painful and inhumane.
Hmmm... maybe there's an opportunity here to design a new weapon for this specific type of situation... I'm thinking some sort of super turbo-charged tazer that would be safe for all of the field employees to carry on them, that would still stop a bear in its tracks immediately but wouldn't have the hazards of firing a firearm (e.g. bullets flying a long way, possibly hitting people, piping, tanks, flammable equipment, etc) and would have limited range (maybe 10 meters) -- but could be designed to easily penetrate bear hide and fur, and have a high enough shock discharge that it would either quickly and completely incapacitate or kill a black bear, grizzly, polar bear, wolf, or other voracious "people eater".... A quick training and re-qual every 6 months for the folks working in these areas, they get a permit to carry the "beast zapper", and if it's ever used improperly (aka on a human) it would be treated legally the same as firing a firearm at that person. Not a perfect solution, but - it could save lives and even spawn a new industry.
How is it to live in the wild? I'm impressed that you have internet access. Did you construct your hut alone or did you have help? Impressive you took down a bear with your bare hands and wits alone. Cheers! We should all go back to living that way.
How long did you and your family survive on the meat from your brave hunt?
Do you eat meat? A pertinent question, it gauges the potential level of hypocrisy that your post may contain. The back end of meat eating is a dirty, callous business not fit for the faint of heart. Cellophane wrapping and foam meat trays package a fiction that defies the actual reality therein, some like thebaron have chosen the road less traveled and experienced it from source to destination.
As for myself, I've traded my gun for a camera...but I know first hand what it means to kill for food and have never quite understood the self righteous who condemn on the one hand while stuffing their faces with...things that had faces.
How long did you and your family survive on the meat from your brave hunt?
You might have forgotten the thread but he would bash in the brains of a family of raccoons with a baseball bat, even the baby ones. Maybe that's his idea of a hunt for meat.
I know first hand what it means to kill for food and have never quite understood the self righteous who condemn on the one hand while stuffing their faces with...things that had faces.
Well put. I have friends who can't understand why I like to spend my time fishing "because cleaning a fish would be messy and gross" but they'll order the tilapia on the menu because "it's not very fishy tasting and it's good for me".
I know first hand what it means to kill for food and have never quite understood the self righteous who condemn on the one hand while stuffing their faces with...things that had faces.
Well put. I have friends who can't understand why I like to spend my time fishing "because cleaning a fish would be messy and gross" but they'll order the tilapia on the menu because "it's not very fishy tasting and it's good for me".
I grew up on a farm.. I helped slaughter cows and cut them into the various cuts of beef, make ground beef, pack sausages, etc... I helped kill chickens and boil the feathers off and clean and dress them. I shot my own deer twice in my late teen years and went through field dressing them and butchering them... but it's a LOT of work and takes a lot of time. So now - I'm quite happy to say "give me my beef in a nice piece of wax paper" at the butcher shop and not have to deal with the process of getting there. I have nothing against the process, I've done it, I'd do it again, but I don't have the time, space, or equipment to do it now. Same can be said for fishing - I've caught and cleaned plenty of bass, trout, muskies, and walleye in my life in July/August each summer -- but I'd much rather go to a restaurant and let them do it for me the 10 other months of the year - I have no desire to go ice fishing or being out in a boat with frozen fingers in October.
Hmmm... maybe there's an opportunity here to design a new weapon for this specific type of situation... I'm thinking some sort of super turbo-charged tazer that would be safe for all of the field employees to carry on them, that would still stop a bear in its tracks immediately but wouldn't have the hazards of firing a firearm (e.g. bullets flying a long way, possibly hitting people, piping, tanks, flammable equipment, etc) and would have limited range (maybe 10 meters) -- but could be designed to easily penetrate bear hide and fur, and have a high enough shock discharge that it would either quickly and completely incapacitate or kill a black bear, grizzly, polar bear, wolf, or other voracious "people eater".... A quick training and re-qual every 6 months for the folks working in these areas, they get a permit to carry the "beast zapper", and if it's ever used improperly (aka on a human) it would be treated legally the same as firing a firearm at that person. Not a perfect solution, but - it could save lives and even spawn a new industry.
Not gonna work. Conducted energy weapons only incapacitate while activated (assuming good conductivity). The minute the charge stops, the victim regains all physical capabilities. THAT would REALLY just anger the bear more and fill it with adrenaline.
It's not like the movies where a split-second shot makes the victim go unconscious. You don't go unconscious from a tazer, unless there's an underlying health condition being triggered (which is EXTREMELY rare).
How is it to live in the wild? I'm impressed that you have internet access. Did you construct your hut alone or did you have help? Impressive you took down a bear with your bare hands and wits alone. Cheers! We should all go back to living that way.
How long did you and your family survive on the meat from your brave hunt?
I'm glad you are able to feel morally superior being a vegetarian, whatever helps you sleep at night.
As for how long the meat lasted, I'm really not sure. A quick calculation would give about 150 days or so, probably more because it was mixed with about 20% pork and made into breakfast sausage. Delicious.
As for raccoons, yes, I've shot my fair share of them. If that gets your panties in a bunch there's an ignore button somewhere in »/profi ··· e/910919 don't be afrait to click it.
I certainly dont want construction workers or engineers to be handed weapons......
Lol.. I know plenty of construction workers, engineers and most of all people working in IT, whom I'd trust with a firearm a lot more than I'd trust your typical cop. They shoot in a typical week more than most cops do in a year.
By the way, a bear can be taken down with 9x19, but it would not be my first choice. Here's one where a young moose, close enough to the size of a black bear is taken down with a handgun..
A larger caliber handgun (and I'm not talking .45ACP) would be a good option for carrying, but we'd need gun laws based on common sense, which is not happening in our country. The dips and the lieberals will try to make our laws even more idiotic, while the cons will throw the law-abiding gun owners a few meaningless bones while pretending that they care.
Those animals bred themselves with aggression being an important trait. They won't even back down from a train and I'm NOT exaggerating. I've personally been in a situation where it charged my car. Fortunately it was a beat-up shitbox during my student days lol.
This calf was aggressive, attacked the human and could have easily killed him had he not been carrying.
-------------------------------------------------------- wtf?.....the Wild Life Officials say this story is unfounded....dude that's a lot of money and resources spent on someone, why lie?
what could she have done different then what she has done, i can just imagine that big bear at the window of your car.. actually that damage is minimal, to many others that have run into deer or bears.
good thing for them that bear was more curious and "playful" than angry or wanting to eat them...lucky for the bear they weren't armed, as i'm sure they would have shot him for getting so close.