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amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America

amungus

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opt IN

This might be nice if they bothered to explain to people that they could opt IN, instead of just doing it.

Would this also open up people to getting raided for something that happened on "their" connection, even if it was the "public" side of things?

"Hello, we're the feds, we need your router. Somebody did something with your connection" ... Grandma - "what?"

MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY

MxxCon

Member

No, those hotspots get separate wan ip
ITGeeks
join:2014-04-20
Cleveland, OH

ITGeeks

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and has a login page.
Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL

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Mr Matt

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said by ITGeeks:

and has a login page.

And has a physical address like the customers. So if some pervert is using the public hotspot for downloading illegal pornography, unless the police perform a through investigation and determine the public hotspot is being used for the illegal act, the police are more likely to SWAT the customer hosting the hotspot, beat them up and do thousand dollars worth of damage to the customers property, before determining who is doing the dirty deed. The lazy police act first and ask questions afterword.
TheWiseGuy
Dog And Butterfly
MVM
join:2002-07-04
East Stroudsburg, PA

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TheWiseGuy

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said by Mr Matt:

said by ITGeeks:

and has a login page.

And has a physical address like the customers. So if some pervert is using the public hotspot for downloading illegal pornography, unless the police perform a through investigation the and determine the public hotspot is being used for the illegal act, the police are more likely to SWAT the customer hosting the hotspot, beat them up and do thousand dollars worth of damage to the customers property, before determining who is doing the dirty deed. The lazy police act first and ask questions afterword.

Pure nonsense. The cable company will be supplying the police with the information and they know that the Wi-Fi hotspot was used and would be telling the police that it was a public wi-fi hotspot and supplying the credentials used to log on.
Mr Matt
join:2008-01-29
Eustis, FL

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Mr Matt

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said by TheWiseGuy:

The cable company will be supplying the police with the information

You fail to recognize that police and intelligence are mutually exclusive terms. Before the cable company will supply information to the police, the police have to request the information. I have been reading DSL reports for several years and occasionally have seen cases where the police took action half cocked, leaving the customer cold cocked.
TheWiseGuy
Dog And Butterfly
MVM
join:2002-07-04
East Stroudsburg, PA

TheWiseGuy

MVM

said by Mr Matt:

said by TheWiseGuy:

The cable company will be supplying the police with the information

You fail to recognize that police and intelligence are mutually exclusive terms. Before the cable company will supply information to the police, the police have to request the information. I have been reading DSL reports for several years and occasionally have seen cases where the police took action half cocked, leaving the customer cold cocked.

You either fail to understand how the Internet works and how police and Intelligence agencies work. To figure out where a communication comes from and the physical location it is coming from you need the IP the communication came from. The only one who knows who has a specific IP and where it is located is the Cable company.

As to Cablevision supplying the router, this is a new policy so no it does not conflict with anything said. Most people have their own routers, you NOW can request a free one to use.

Sammael1069
join:2011-06-20
united state

Sammael1069

Member

As long as you don't give out your user name/password to anyone you should be fine............. Oh wait you send that out unencrypted every time you sign in.
TheWiseGuy
Dog And Butterfly
MVM
join:2002-07-04
East Stroudsburg, PA

TheWiseGuy

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said by Sammael1069:

As long as you don't give out your user name/password to anyone you should be fine............. Oh wait you send that out unencrypted every time you sign in.

Not completely correct since the sign in for the public WIFI is via an SSL Log In page. It is true that if you are using automatic log in some one could get your MAC address and spoof it to log in but that has nothing to do with the risk to the home owner who is not using the unencrypted connection!! So it really is a conversation for a different thread/topic.