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elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
Reviews:
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The public will only buy this so long...

Hastings can continue to try to pin all blame on the ISPs, but if it continues much longer, the public is going to smell a rat.

I'm rather surprised that very few on this forum, and no one in the media has even considered that Netflix' insistence on OpenConnect and the Name & Shame campaign is equally if not more reprehensible than the so-called tolls that the ISPs are asking to compensate them for the disproportionate traffic volumes generated exclusively by Netflix. After all, Reed claims to be a Republican, and Netflix is the largest streaming corporation, with a market cap of $25 Billion.


kkkkkkkkkkkk

@12.109.156.x

3 recommendations

look at the profit margins. netflix isn't exactly raking in the cash when compared to larger ISPs looking to get even MORE money. unlike most ISPs, netflix likes to use its profits to make more original content and a much better, evolving experience. verizon/comcast/etc like to spend money on lobbying to get their way to avoid evolving and releasing a better product.

As the movie-subscription company expanded internationally and paid handsomely for more video content, Wall Street had been braced for a loss of about 13 cents a share. But Netflix reported a profit of $8 million, or 13 cents a share. In the year-earlier quarter, profit totaled $35 million, or 64 cents a share.

Comcast (CMCSA) earnings surpassed analyst expectations on Tuesday, showing a 30 percent rise in net income for the first quarter. Comcast showed a profit of $1.87 billion, or 71 cents per share. Revenue grew to $17.4 billion, up 13.7% from the same period the year before.

Verizon posted a first-quarter profit of $3.95 billion, or $1.15 a share. In the year-earlier period, it reported a profit of $2 billion, or 68 cents a share. Excluding one-time items such as an after-tax gain from an asset sale, it posted per-share earnings of 84 cents.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

4 recommendations

reply to elray
The blame is on the ISP's, that is very clear.

Netflix trying to get ISPs to use OpenConnect which is mutually beneficial to both parties is a bad thing? Please explain that mislead logic.


Kuro

@75.151.50.x
reply to elray
Most of the public will stick with Netflix until they start nickel and diming them like ISPs do or Comcast makes a few commercials with some nice sounding business double speak.

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to kkkkkkkkkkkk
Remove wireless from the equation and Verizon doesn't look so good.

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to elray
Are you saying Netflix is a for-profit company, using underhanded schemes to try to maximize their profit just like the ISPs?


kkkkkkkkkkkk

@12.109.156.x
reply to silbaco
.......
»www.fiercetelecom.com/story/veri···14-04-24

»newscenter.verizon.com/corporate···arnings/

i would say Verizon is still doing... eh... just a SMIDGE better than netflix still on *just* their wireless profits....

besides, why would you have to remove it? we're reporting on companies as a whole. cable companies have internet and tv, but we don't look at that separate. netflix has physical disc rentals and streaming. you can't pick and choose what you want to eliminate to make a valid argument.

AVonGauss
Premium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL

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reply to kkkkkkkkkkkk
said by kkkkkkkkkkkk :

Comcast (CMCSA) earnings surpassed analyst expectations on Tuesday, showing a 30 percent rise in net income for the first quarter. Comcast showed a profit of $1.87 billion, or 71 cents per share. Revenue grew to $17.4 billion, up 13.7% from the same period the year before.

While you have a good point, and Comcast is definitely bigger, a more fair comparison would be to compare NetFlix against Comcast CATV or Internet business rather than including all lines of their business.

elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
·EarthLink
reply to Skippy25
OpenConnect is more PR spin; it is not "free" - the ISP incurs additional costs to attach to it. Without Netflix' disproportionate data volumes, there would be no need for it.

Netflix is expecting special treatment for their data - except they want the ISP (and by extension, their subscribers, that's me) to pay for it.