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floydb1982
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[Connection Sharing] Looking for Wired Router without QoS or lease time limit

I've got a Belkin F9K1103 v1 router that works with my Powerline adapters but QoS can't be turned off on 802.11n but on 802.11a/b/g only. but the DHCP lease time limit can be set to unlimited on it. I'm looking for a wired only router that doesn't use QoS or have a DHCP lease time limit at all. I hate that. Is there even such a wired router???

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Zyxel USG20 appears to meet your requirements. What is the speed of your Internet connection? How much are you willing to spend?
floydb1982
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Oh okay. first lets me start off by asking how much is the Zyxel USG20??? I have the Comcast 50Mbps/10Mbps. I have the NETGEAR Powerline AV 200 XAVB2001 Adapter Kit. One plugged into The Motorola DOCSIS 3.0 modem in the dinning room and the second one plugged into my bedroom into my gamming computer. A second Powerline AV 200 XAVB2001 Adapter Kit stored on the shelve in my bedroom. A mobile home built in 1985 and I am getting the full 200Mb/s signal on the Powerline AV 200 adapters. My internet will get 51Mbps/11Mbps to 52Mbps/11Mbps on IPv4. I will get 50Mbps/10Mbps to 50.5Mbps/10.6 on IPv6 So I am able to get the full 50mbps/10Mbps cable speeds.

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Newegg is selling the USG20 for $140 shipped. You can buy used one for a lot less on EBay.

Here is an old review

»www.smallnetbuilder.com/ ··· reviewed

The Zyxel USG models IPv4 DHCP lease time can be set to infinite. The IPv6 DHCP lease time is fixed at approximately 38 days
floydb1982
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Nope don't like because of the time limit on the IPv6 DHCP. Anything else out there that doesn't use QoS or have any DHCP lease time limit at all IPv4 or IPv6???
LittleBill
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all dhcp has time limits, why do you ask for such weird stuff? set it static if you don't want stuff to renew

shdesigns
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said by LittleBill:

all dhcp has time limits, why do you ask for such weird stuff? set it static if you don't want stuff to renew

+1

Seems like useless requirements to me.
HELLFIRE
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said by floydb1982:

wired only router that doesn't use QoS or have a DHCP lease time limit at all.

For your first requirement, at a deep technical level there's no way to get rid of QOS as there's various
such mechanisims throughout the layers of the OSI stack. Case in point : 802.11 any has something called
WMM, while TCP has DSCP, and that you can't just strip out on a whim. Can you explain / clarify further
exactly what you're looking for, or your rationale for this requirement?

For your 2nd requirement, there's something called "static IP address assignment," either on the router itself, or if it's a PC, should be easy enough to set one there.

My 00000010bits

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ropeguru
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Because he FINALLY found the Wizard of OZ in true widescreen format. Problem is that QoS slows down the stream and his DHCP lease times out before the buffering completes from the year 5000.
floydb1982
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My Belkin F9K1103 v1 can have the DHCP lease time limit set to unlimited in were it never expires. Now if I could disable QoS on 802.11n like I can on 802.11a/b/g I would use it in a heart beat.
Shady Bimmer
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said by floydb1982:

I'm looking for a wired only router that doesn't use QoS or have a DHCP lease time limit at all. I hate that. Is there even such a wired router???

Why do you need this (or why do you care)?

Setting a DHCP lease to "unlimited" does not serve any purpose and the recommendations already noted here are a much better option.

billaustin
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If you want the device to always have the same IP, you have to either assign a static IP or set an IP reservation in the router so that the device always gets assigned the same IP. An unlimited lease time does not guarantee that the device will get the same IP after a power loss.

I am curious as to what particular issues are resolved by disabling QOS on the wireless.

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+1

Anav
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Concur, why is the OP afraid to state the requirement, in clear terms?
What is prevented for example by not having such QOS demands.
HELLFIRE
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said by floydb1982:

but QoS can't be turned off on 802.11n but on 802.11a/b/g only.

This statement got my technical curiousity senses tingling, so I dug around into the relationship
between WMM and 802.11n. Came across this link which is quite an eyeopener.

tl;dr version : you're screwed for your 1st requirement OP, and if you don't like it you're going
to have to take it up with the IEEE or go back to 11a/g-only gear. For your 2nd you've got other
workable suggestions that don't involve looking for new equipment.

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LittleBill
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QOS is not WMM.

OP has alot of weird requirements, and a very lacking understanding of networking in general, everything he has asked for over multiple posts is completely useless and not needed
tomdlgns
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i am also curious as to why unlimited DHCP is needed?

- set to static if you want the same ip
- if the device is on when the DHCP request is made it will get the same IP
- why does the IP address matter? if it matters, see the first point (static ip).

Juke Box
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Why not just reserve the ip address for the mac address of your device in the router?