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Re: [Caps] Comcast 300Gb data caps, How long can they do this?said by Kasoah:said by JohnInSJ:said by swanlee:If they don;t then I cut back my services and do the opposite of what they want. You and at least 0.01% of their subs. The rest won't even notice. Clearly the people who set these pricepoints can read their own usage data. I'm guessing they did the math. %.01? Probably a lot more now like 2-3%. People who defend caps are way out of touch with what people do today. If you reinstall steam on a computer and 30+ games you can blow through 500 gigabytes easily. There are absolutely no reasons for caps other than an extra cash flow. I haven't seen Comcast get any worse since they abandoned the 250gb cap. People on this forum are generally out of touch and quite old. I don't really like reddit but at least they know they are being shammed by isps. » pay.reddit.com/r/technol ··· nternet/ I don't "defend the caps" - I expect comcast to behave like every other BUSINESS. They will maximize profits. When the number of people approaches more than noise (hint - that's way more than sub 10%) then this will change. Expect them to nudge the line up to just enough to cover whatever % they need to have acceptable churn with maximum profit. Repeat. Welcome to America. |
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said by Kasoah:said by JohnInSJ:said by swanlee:If they don;t then I cut back my services and do the opposite of what they want. You and at least 0.01% of their subs. The rest won't even notice. Clearly the people who set these pricepoints can read their own usage data. I'm guessing they did the math. %.01? Probably a lot more now like 2-3%. People who defend caps are way out of touch with what people do today. If you reinstall steam on a computer and 30+ games you can blow through 500 gigabytes easily. There are absolutely no reasons for caps other than an extra cash flow. I haven't seen Comcast get any worse since they abandoned the 250gb cap. People on this forum are generally out of touch and quite old. I don't really like reddit but at least they know they are being shammed by isps. » pay.reddit.com/r/technol ··· nternet/ I was a sonic.net user. I recall them kicking a customer because he was mirroring their netnews feeds, which used 65% of their "unlimited" pipe. Which was too much. So they let that user go. Or cut him off. I like Dane, but I have no doubt he's poking the (very large) bear. Oh, and I love the "out of touch and quite old" comment - Yep. We also probably understand how the internet works, too, given we helped build it. |
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Re: [Caps] Re: Comcast 300Gb data caps, How long can they do this?I'd be interested in the actual cost of data traveled over Comcast's pipes as a function of speed. A byte is a byte whether it's delivered at 16 Mbits/sec or 100 Mbits/sec and my understanding is it costs Comcast pennies per gigabyte for the data. In my area I found the monthly cost of two plans: a $50 per month 25 Mbyte/s plan and a $115 per month 105 Mbyte/s plan which I use in the following. It seems hard to read their tables as they confuse new customer plans with longer term customer costs. You need to do your own calculations if you can find accurate costs. Good luck on that. In any of these plans if you use less than 300 gigbytes or much fewer than an extra 50 gigabytes, the cost per gigabyte could be very high. Use one gig more than the "cap" in a month for any of the plans and the extra gig is $10. Ouch!
From what I've read, one of their test plans provides 300 gigabytes at a speed costing $50 per month, that's about $0.17 per gigabyte and an additional 50 gigabytes cost $10 or $0.20 per gigabyte.
If your cost jumps to $115 per month for a faster speed, for a 300 gigabyte plan costs $0.33 per gigabyte with the same $0.20 per gigabyte in 50 gigabyte chunks beyond 300 gig in a month. That doesn't sound like a good choice, although if you have multiple simultaneous users in your household requiring higher speed, you may need to pay the higher costs.
If you used 600 gigabytes at the lower cost $50 300 gig/month plan + $10 per additional 50 gigabytes it would cost you $50 + 6 x $10 = $110 or $0.18 per gigabyte for the 1st 600 gigs. More than 600 gigs would also be $0.20 per gig.
If you need 600 gigs/month and Comcast has the 300 gigs/month high speed plan that would cost you $115 + 6 x $10 = $175 per month or $0.29 per gig. Ouch!
If Comcast adopted a plan where you could get 600 gigabytes with the higher speed plan that costs $115 or $0.19 per gigabyte for the first 600 gigs, and your cost before the extra 50 gigabytes are used would be $5 more per month than the $50 300 gig per month plan. A small increase over 600 gigs/month under a slower speed 300 gig/month plan.
The bottom lines seem to be:
1. Data cost $0.17 to $0.20 per gig if you use your entire allocation: 300 gigs, 600 gigs, 50 gig chunks in the options one is likely to choose. If you use less than any of these allocations the per gig cost is higher. Nothing new here.
2. If you need less than 300 gigs/month and don't need high speeds get the lower cost plan.
3. If you need less than 300 gigs/month but need high speeds, your costs could be more than two times as much as the slower speed 300 gig/month plan. A hard choice here depending on your situation and if you're willing to compromise speed vs. cost.
4. If you need 600 gigs/month or more, the low cost/low speed plan may be OK. See 5 & 6 below.
5. If you need 600 gigs/month or more per month at high speed and Comcast keeps the 300 gig/month "cap"/high speed plan and you need the high speeds, you'll be screaming four letter words. Look into a business plan.
6. If Comcast adopts the plan with 600 gigs/month with a higher speed/higher cost plan and you need 600 gigs/month or more, get that, but don't expect any savings over a slower plan with a lower cap.
As I said, I looked up the cost of two plans for my area, but CC seems to increase speeds sometimes with no increase in cost and sometimes increases cost without speed increase. And the data may be old. If anyone has better more accurate data, please report your calculations.
It is clear from item 1 above that for low data users the per gigabyte cost for any plan can be very high and as some have asserted, are subsidizing high data users. This may not actually be true of the cost of gigabytes for Comcast is pennies, then it may actually cost Comcast about $50 per month to deliver data regardless of speed. The $115 plan may cost Comcast $50 and the rest - $65 - is pure profit.
I wonder what reader's opinions would be for the same kind of billing done by utility companies: charge a per diem for the "meter" on the side of the house or in the basement plus a per unit charge for what's used with no limit on data consumption. (I didn't use the term "unlimited", 'cause it seems to have various meanings!) For instance, I pay $0.3835 per day access charge for electricity, and last month $0.1008 per kWh for the electric energy used. The kWh charge is not exactly what it costs the electric utility to make the energy, so some of it must be for system maintenance, emergency repairs, some salaries, etc., so the meter charge must not cover all of that. The local utility had a major fire recently which disabled a substantial fraction of our electricity production and must make up the shortfall by purchasing it from the grid. They claim the lost capacity cost ~$0.02 per kWh to make and they must pay $0.03 per kWh to the gird producers for the make up. I wonder what the situation would be for cable HSI. Would the "meter" cost be different for different speeds with a fixed cost per gigabyte? One problem is that Comcast's services share the same "meter" and infrastructure: cable TV, HSI, telephone, security system and dividing the cost for each could be contentious. If what I asserted above that it costs Comcast about $50 per month per sub to run the Internet system independent of speed, then the meter could be set at $50 per month and data could cost a few cents per gig. Another option is some of these fixed costs would probably end up in the unit cost of data like that for electricity. What would be fair to compensate Comcast for its infrastructure costs plus the cost of bytes? |
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2014-Jun-19 12:19 am
There may be some conflation of the costs of data rate (bandwidth) and the costs of accumulated amount of data delivered per billing period. These are the concepts I've been struggling with during these discussions about Comcast's data consumption discouragement plans. (OK, a tortured phrase, but I wanted to avoid using "caps" or "thresholds" to avoid the dictionary police. ) Getting serious again... I am forming the opinion that Comcast's variable costs in supplying data are related more to bandwidth than amount of data delivered per billing period. To say that differently, Comcast's variable costs are more related to the speed tier I subscribe to than whether or not I hit 300GB of data per month. If I change my HSI tier from 25mbps to 100mbps, that can represent a need for Comcast to increase their hardware resources to provide me a four times increase in instantaneous data delivery rate. On the other hand, if (on my 25mbps speed tier) I increase my data usage from 100GB to 500GB per billing period, I do not see how Comcast would need to deploy more hardware to accommodate that increased amount of data I consume. Comcast is not creating or producing the bits of data, Comcast is only moving data from its source (e.g., Netflix, gaming servers, etc.) to my home network. There are no data creation costs on Comcast's part. So, I need to be convinced why my usage of 500GB per month vs. my usage of 100GB per month costs Comcast more money, presuming I stay at my current subscribed speed tier. |
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said by camper:There may be some conflation of the costs of data rate (bandwidth) and the costs of accumulated amount of data delivered per billing period.
These are the concepts I've been struggling with during these discussions about Comcast's data consumption discouragement plans. (OK, a tortured phrase, but I wanted to avoid using "caps" or "thresholds" to avoid the dictionary police. ) Getting serious again...
I am forming the opinion that Comcast's variable costs in supplying data are related more to bandwidth than amount of data delivered per billing period. To say that differently, Comcast's variable costs are more related to the speed tier I subscribe to than whether or not I hit 300GB of data per month.
If I change my HSI tier from 25mbps to 100mbps, that can represent a need for Comcast to increase their hardware resources to provide me a four times increase in instantaneous data delivery rate.
On the other hand, if (on my 25mbps speed tier) I increase my data usage from 100GB to 500GB per billing period, I do not see how Comcast would need to deploy more hardware to accommodate that increased amount of data I consume.
Comcast is not creating or producing the bits of data, Comcast is only moving data from its source (e.g., Netflix, gaming servers, etc.) to my home network. There are no data creation costs on Comcast's part.
So, I need to be convinced why my usage of 500GB per month vs. my usage of 100GB per month costs Comcast more money, presuming I stay at my current subscribed speed tier. It's because in truth they don't likely build it to handle 24/7 use at your up to speed due to it being a shared plant. So yes it does cost them more to have a user max out the connection than one who doesn't. Time warner cable has tons of users getting only 5mbs down on a 50mbs plan just for how "unlimited" it is. Should things be this way, no but it does cost more to have 24/7 band with for a user to get the full speed. So if a guy uses 1TB along with everyone else in the area that month the network would likely not be able to give every one full speed. This is all about money though and time warner cable would be doing the same if they didn't test with the really low cap of 40GB 5 years ago when most where testing with 200-250GB. |
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said by why60loss:It's because in truth they don't likely build it to handle 24/7 use at your up to speed due to it being a shared plant.   So how do they know when I use it? What if most, if not all, of my usage occurs during the time when "others" are not using Comcast's facilities? What if your 1TB that I use occurs when few others are using Comcast's network? Your scenario does not hold water because you speak of someone using 1TB over the course of a month, ignoring the provision of the speed tier I subscribe to. Once again, I will fall back to the fact that Comcast has provisioned me for 25mbps. You continue to conflate bandwidth with monthly data accumulation. And here's another interesting item to ponder.... Comcast has stated that traffic from their video on demand servers does not count towards the Comcast data consumption reduction plan. That strikes me as quite odd, because Comcast originates that data and there is a variable cost to Comcast for increased usage of that data. So now we have Comcast saying that data for which Comcast has no variable costs needs a usage-based surcharge, yet data for which Comcast does have variable costs does not need to have a usage-based surcharge. Does that seem upside down to you? |
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Re: [Caps] Comcast 300Gb data caps, How long can they do this?said by swanlee:Please, I always love these cap defenders, 300GB is not going to play well very soon for a large portion of internet users. They are going to have to raise the caps To be honest, I don't understand (yet) why people complain about a 300GB cap. I put the yet in there because I don't use Netflix or much in the ways of streaming services (which will change next month when I get my own apt). I'm currently sitting with an 80GB cap and haven't gone over once, even with Online gaming, movie/game downloads, etc. I'll come back to you after July has come and gone and see what my first month's usage is like on my unlimited plan |
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2014-Jun-19 12:03 pm
My biggest issue is
No options or ability to adjust my plan to remove the cap. I have worked with the business class department at Comcast and getting a business class line that is the same speed as my current line would cost way more than my current plan.
Also the fact that the data cap was introduced AFTER I had already signed up and I as a customer got ZERO benefit.
And the biggest problem is their is ZERO regional competition for legit broadband in my area.
I can't just choose another ISP if Comcast goes nuts and makes their service not worthwhile.
I want some real competition in my area so that a single company can't just change everything and leave me with no choice. |
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I can easily use 80GB in a single day with my 100MB connection.
2 Xbox one games could easily eclipse 80GB to download. |
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said by swanlee:getting a business class line that is the same speed as my current line would cost way more than my current plan. Yes, because it's priced as if your data usage would be far higher than the 300GB or so assumed for residential pricing. |
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2014-Jun-19 1:47 pm
said by JohnInSJ:said by swanlee:getting a business class line that is the same speed as my current line would cost way more than my current plan. Yes, because it's priced as if your data usage would be far higher than the 300GB or so assumed for residential pricing. Want to hear something funny? This is actually untrue. It's priced because the support is better. From usage reports I have seen in most cases the residential lines use more vs. the avg business one. This is because business tend to use a little more upload due to email or web server, but keep in mind upload speed is a small % of DL so the usable BW is limited. Also because a business doesn't sit and generally stream HD movies on netflix for hours or download 50+GB console games. Now this isn't 100% accurate, yes some businesses use more, but I am talking about from a general level of regular business class cable modem accounts vs. residential cable mode. Where these CAPS/UBB irk me is on-net vs. off-net. They allow Comcast VoIP and Comcast IPTV to not count against your usage because they claim it's on net. Why does it count against me then if I transfer a file to a server I have on a business account from my home one while it's all on-net? Why does it count against my usage if I watch netflix which is now on-net because you made them pay? You shouldn't be allowed to discriminate like this. Either ALL traffic counts or Off-net only. Why does your VoIP get to be special and me having a trunk from home to office can't be too if it's all local on-net? Why? Simple, they are trying to monopolize things. Pay us money and use our service it don't count, but use someone else and it will... |
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said by Anno :said by JohnInSJ:said by swanlee:getting a business class line that is the same speed as my current line would cost way more than my current plan. Yes, because it's priced as if your data usage would be far higher than the 300GB or so assumed for residential pricing. Want to hear something funny? This is actually untrue. It's priced because the support is better. From usage reports I have seen in most cases the residential lines use more vs. the avg business one. This is because business tend to use a little more upload due to email or web server, but keep in mind upload speed is a small % of DL so the usable BW is limited. Also because a business doesn't sit and generally stream HD movies on netflix for hours or download 50+GB console games. Now this isn't 100% accurate, yes some businesses use more, but I am talking about from a general level of regular business class cable modem accounts vs. residential cable mode. Where these CAPS/UBB irk me is on-net vs. off-net. They allow Comcast VoIP and Comcast IPTV to not count against your usage because they claim it's on net. Why does it count against me then if I transfer a file to a server I have on a business account from my home one while it's all on-net? Why does it count against my usage if I watch netflix which is now on-net because you made them pay? You shouldn't be allowed to discriminate like this. Either ALL traffic counts or Off-net only. Why does your VoIP get to be special and me having a trunk from home to office can't be too if it's all local on-net? Why? Simple, they are trying to monopolize things. Pay us money and use our service it don't count, but use someone else and it will... Yep it's all about money really. Just like the 2GB cap on 4G is, there is more bandwidth on 4G than 3G by a mile yet the same cap is on both for the same cost. At lest I have an "unlimited" cell data plan. There's a lot of factors but really it is all about making more money because they think they can. That's what a business does. Most of the time business's keep each other in check, but Comcast really has no other to keep it in check in most places just like time warner cable doesn't and other ISP's don't. |
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I see both sides of the argument.
Netflix comes in, directly challenges your core business (at least for cord cutters) and ends up using a rather significant portion of your network during prime time without paying anything what so ever. Well they have paid them something now but you get the idea.
Comcast on the other hand as a practical monopoly in most areas wants to remain relevant in the TV business while milking people for as much as possible for what will be their only growth business. So they throw some caps, charge a fee for going over knowing full and well that digital media, cloud data and as such downloads / bandwidth usage will grow exponentially.
As a consumer I'm not so pissed that Comcast has done this as I am upset that they have the monopoly and the market simply does not function properly as such.
Now that begs to question what AT&T's plans (the only real other internet player in cable markets) are because they simply can't keep relying on DSL or even Uverse DSL to compete. Comcast and most other cable operators blow them out of the water speed wise and the disparity will only get larger unless they drop copper and move to fiber (very expensive).
The state of America's broadband is pretty poor and it is a direct result of one of two things depending on how you look at things:
1. Lack of regulation in a monopolistic environment. Profits > all including safety / life / anything which has been proven time and time again in history.
2. Lack of competition because of failed market forces and/or political forces and/or incentive to invest in fiber.
Personally its a combination of all these factors screwing consumer over. |
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said by Anno :said by JohnInSJ:said by swanlee:getting a business class line that is the same speed as my current line would cost way more than my current plan. Yes, because it's priced as if your data usage would be far higher than the 300GB or so assumed for residential pricing. Want to hear something funny? This is actually untrue. You know this how? I was on business class for 5+ years. Running a business. Sure, support is *slightly* better. But the TOS and AUP are radically different. And like every other business class internet service, the price model reflects the speed of the transport and the volume of traffic per billing unit (and unlike most actual business class internet services, it does not reflect any SLA) |
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Re: [Caps] Re: Comcast 300Gb data caps, How long can they do this?Regardless if Comcast has to pay for the data flows they still have to pay for the bigger pipes (more fiber) in their network to get the data to you and all the other users. |
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Caps are going to be bad in the future... last night I tested out a 4K movie on my new screen streamed it ran at 2.5MB a second and used up almost 15 GB over the runtime of the movie.... and that was with one movie.. that's a whole 20 movies in a month, but also not including all the other normal internet usage... the days of "only hackers and warez people use that much" is long gone now with HD and UHD streaming
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Re: [Caps] Comcast 300Gb data caps, How long can they do this?said by why60loss:Time warner cable has tons of users getting only 5mbs down on a 50mbs plan just for how "unlimited" it is. Should things be this way, no but it does cost more to have 24/7 band with for a user to get the full speed. Correct, but again there are choices all around. In this example, T/W chooses to offer a 50meg plan (likely due to pressure from surrounding FiOS & Comcast, as T/W doesn't offer 50meg in their entire footprint). But common sense says anytime you move people to a much faster speed (regardless of a cap) the provider needs to split & add nodes. Comcast (for all of their problems) has been better than most providers at addressing this, IMO. The reason I feel confident about this is that the Comcast metered billing is not enforced in my area and even during prime-time, I can speedtest 90-110meg/sec for my 105 connection. This means that (at least in my area) Comcast has made the required upgrades to service. |
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Re: [Caps] Re: Comcast 300Gb data caps, How long can they do this?Yep we seriously could hit our cap within days by doing fairly normal legit streaming and downloading.
Add 4K video streaming to the mix and your cap can be gone in 12hrs
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Re: [Caps] Comcast 300Gb data caps, How long can they do this?said by JohnInSJ:I don't "defend the caps" - I expect comcast to behave like every other BUSINESS. They will maximize profits.
When the number of people approaches more than noise (hint - that's way more than sub 10%) then this will change.
Expect them to nudge the line up to just enough to cover whatever % they need to have acceptable churn with maximum profit. Repeat.
Welcome to [del]America[/del] the oligopoly. FTFY. If these were either free markets or regulated utilities, this cap BS to protect their video biz wouldn't exist. |
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said by GTFan: If these were either free markets or regulated utilities, this cap BS to protect their video biz wouldn't exist. do you really think that? that if Comcast were a regulated utility, they wouldn't still meter your usage? |
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Re: [Caps] Re: Comcast 300Gb data caps, How long can they do this?If you need 600 gigs/month and Comcast has the 300 gigs/month high speed plan that would cost you $115 + 6 x $20 = $235 per month. Ouch!
To be fair that's less that I pay TWC biz for my 5*50 line for an office that only uses 330GB a month (i filter a lot) |
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said by Eagles1221:If you need 600 gigs/month and Comcast has the 300 gigs/month high speed plan that would cost you $115 + 6 x $20 = $235 per month. Ouch! Actually the overage charges would cost 6 x $10 = $60 per month, not 6 x $20 = $120 per month. Perhaps still an ouch for a residential HSI bill, but not as bad as your estimate. And since you also mentioned a 50/5 TWC business class account, a Comcast standalone BCI 50/10 plan is $110 per month. |
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This thread is kind of civil compared to other "cap" threads I have seen LOL.
I don't mind metered billing (I can see both sides of the equation as well). As a homeowner, I am quite accustomed to metered electricity, water, gas, etc. I don't see any reason why data consumption should be any different.
However, what I see here is NOT metered billing. Its price gouging to punish us cord-cutters (streaming video isn't the ONLY reason for large amounts of data consumption, but I'm sure its one of the top reasons).
The two things that don't hold water to me with the current "Threshold":
For a time, Comast did away completely with their data caps, and I do NOT recall any ill effects to their network, aside from Netflix issues, which came LATER Hmmmmmm...
Now that Netflix has paid Comcast for their high data traffic...which is DEMANDED by the customer, not broadcast onto Comcast's network, why should I have to essentially pay as well? After all as one user pointed out above, we had all kinds of Netflix quality issues, UNTIL they payed Comcast....Hmmmmmmmmm
I just got hit with my first overage: I typically pay $116/mo for Blast+Voice [full price, I am not under any promotion], and the bill today is $160....
I am one of the very LUCKY few that I actually have an alternative: U-Verse. Last I read, AT&T has a 250Gig cap, but I *WONDER* if I could use the cap as a bargaining chip to earn my business and ditch comcast?
Yes, I would lose speeed...go from 50/10 to probably 18/? But for what I do, that should be fine.
Has anyone that had the option of pitting one ISP vs another successfully negotiated your cap?
I might give it a shot...
-EDIT- I especially do not understand a "one size fits all" "threshold". Yes, I have had users point out the difference between capacity and throughput, but even though they are fundamentally different, they ARE tied together....The more throughput you have, the quicker you hit your capacity. It makes no sense to me whether you have the lowest speed tier, or the highest, that have the same "threshold".
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said by FirebirdTN:...I don't mind metered billing (I can see both sides of the equation as well). As a homeowner, I am quite accustomed to metered electricity, water, gas, etc. I don't see any reason why data consumption should be any different....   If Comcast were creating the data being consumed, then it would be similar to the other metered utilities you cite. However, Comcast does not create the data, they merely transport it. Comcast already "meters" usage via the increasing monthly cost of the higher speed tiers. |
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2014-Jun-21 10:35 am
said by camper:If Comcast were creating the data being consumed, then it would be similar to the other metered utilities you cite. You mean like Water? Or Electricity (transmission charge, generation charge) - yeah it's not like those at all. |
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Re: [Caps] Comcast 300Gb data caps, How long can they do this?said by train_wreck:said by GTFan: If these were either free markets or regulated utilities, this cap BS to protect their video biz wouldn't exist. do you really think that? that if Comcast were a regulated utility, they wouldn't still meter your usage? Absolutely, because utilities are only allowed a cost-plus model. Everyone knows that Comcast's costs for HSI have no bearing on what they can get away with in overcharging a captive market, and there is no need for metered billing here. This is not water or electricity, it's a fixed cost for bandwidth capacity. |
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What should really burn you up, and get you MAD!What should really burn you up, and get you MAD!
Usage caps.......... Go over the mark/threshold, and pay more money.
1. Netflix pays Comcast for streaming to enter Comcast's network. (Netlix isn't the only content provider paying money). 2. Customers pay the ISP Comcast to get to internet and sites like Netflix. 3. Customer pays ISP again when they go over the data threshold.
So, Comcast will ultimately get paid 3 times in a scenario when Customer A streams Super HD Netflix and goes over the data threshold.
This is what the public is fighting so hard against.. Plain and simple gouging by ISP's.
People need to stand up and make their voices heard. |
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Re: [Caps] Comcast 300Gb data caps, How long can they do this?Sounds like you need to get outdoors more often. |
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