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Moving to Culver City, what should I know?I'm moving to Culver City in July, and initially I thought it was mainly a TWC Area, but after talking to folks, it seems UVerse also services the area, so here I am.
Having come from an area with Verizon FiOS, what should I know, having never delt with UVerse services before. Do I rent a modem, or can I buy one? Are they planning to compete with TWC's MAXX Speed boosts? I was planning on getting a Asus RT-AC66U to handle my Ethernet and Wireless needs, so I don't need a Modem/Router/AP Combo, just a modem.
Whats the TV Service like? Is it good? Are the DVRs and software easy to use and reliable?
Does it make a difference / is there a discount if I am an AT&T Wireless customer? I do get a 25% discount off my wireless thru a FAN Account but I doubt that transfers to tv/internet. |
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said by matthewh16:Do I rent a modem, or can I buy one? You must rent a gateway if you either: 1) Want the power tier 2) Too far from the VRAD(if you're on VDSL2) 3) Have TV service 4) Have FTTH 5) Whatever I may have missed You can only purchase a gateway if you have only internet or have phone + internet and it doesn't fit into any of the above categories. said by matthewh16:Are they planning to compete with TWC's MAXX Speed boosts? Hahahahaha said by matthewh16:I was planning on getting a Asus RT-AC66U to handle my Ethernet and Wireless needs, so I don't need a Modem/Router/AP Combo, just a modem. AT&T doesn't supply any modem only devices anymore. Some gateways feature DMZ+ mode and some offer IP Passthrough mode to make it easier to add a router behind the gateway. There are two modem only devices, but they can only be found on eBay and aren't guaranteed to work(they must have the latest firmware) and they are missing features such as pair bonding. said by matthewh16:Whats the TV Service like? Is it good? Are the DVRs and software easy to use and reliable? It's ok. There are a lot of channels to choose from. The picture quality could be better and it could be worse. I don't have a problem with the DVR at all. Our STBs are about 5 and a half years old now. They're running ok except for the DVR which may become a little sluggish once and awhile. It also does a short beep every hour or so when it's not turned on. We haven't really had a problem with it though. said by matthewh16:Does it make a difference / is there a discount if I am an AT&T Wireless customer? I do get a 25% discount off my wireless thru a FAN Account but I doubt that transfers to tv/internet. No clue about the second part, but I think there are some discounts for wireless customers, but I doubt it's that big of a difference and may even be a bit of a hassle. I would just go with the default promotions on the website. |
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djrobx Premium Member join:2000-05-31 Reno, NV |
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Are they planning to compete with TWC's MAXX Speed boosts? Maxx is going to absolutely cook AT&T's goose in LA in terms of internet speed. AT&T has little to no prayer of getting up to Maxx's 300mbps speeds without doing FTTH like they should have in the first place. And it appears TWC is doing these upgrades for their entire LA market and surrounding areas (OC/Ventura). The only thing AT&T U-verse internet has going for it now is that Comcast isn't trying to buy them. Although I may sound like a TWC cheerleader; the truth is that I find the situation of having one clear dominant player utterly terrifying. Having competitive options is a good thing. On the TV/DVR front, things are brighter. TWC seems to be focusing most of their efforts on internet, and their TV platform is in a bad state of needing a refresh. AT&T's whole-home DVR solution is very nice, and the UI is slick and fast. They have a great lineup of HD channels available. AT&T's problems come back down to their short-sightedness in not running FTTH - the HD picture quality is not as good as it could be due to limited bandwidth, but it's otherwise a very nice product. |
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Does this mean (since we'll probably get the TV Service), I'll have an issue running my own router behind theirs? I was just gonna turn off the Wireless AP in the modem, connect my router, have it grab an IP from the modem, and then have it be the switch and wireless AP, and DHCP lessee. Essentially making AT&T just a modem, and my router do all the work. |
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said by Darknessfall:said by matthewh16:I was planning on getting a Asus RT-AC66U to handle my Ethernet and Wireless needs, so I don't need a Modem/Router/AP Combo, just a modem. AT&T doesn't supply any modem only devices anymore. Some gateways feature DMZ+ mode and some offer IP Passthrough mode to make it easier to add a router behind the gateway. There are two modem only devices, but they can only be found on eBay and aren't guaranteed to work(they must have the latest firmware) and they are missing features such as pair bonding. It probably depends on the the local area/local techs, but techs *should* carry at least one Moto/Arris 2210 (single pair ADSL2+ "modem only") and at least one Moto/Arris 2310 (single pair VDSL2 "modem only"). So yes, there is a way to get one other than eBay/3rd parties -- an AT&T technician on a service call. Granted, the modem only devices only support single pair Internet Only, and also only support the regular Dynamic/"sticky" IP -- No true Statics with the 2210/2310 The pair bonded "modem only" is supposedly "in the pipe" -- but it hasn't made it to the field yet. Not even sure on the Make/Model info. I would assume it would still be Motorola/Arris, but who knows. |
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said by matthewh16:Does this mean (since we'll probably get the TV Service), I'll have an issue running my own router behind theirs? I was just gonna turn off the Wireless AP in the modem, connect my router, have it grab an IP from the modem, and then have it be the switch and wireless AP, and DHCP lessee. Essentially making AT&T just a modem, and my router do all the work. I have my Asus RT-N66U set up, doing all the non-IPTV LAN work on my U-Verse setup Since the U-Verse IP address is "Sticky"/*almost* static, you can actually set your IP info as a "Static" in the Asus, and also set your Asus's WAN MAC into the DMZ+ (2Wire/Pace modems)/IP Passthru (Motorola/Arris modems), and the U-Verse modem will pass the Public "Sticky" IP directly to the Asus. I would encourage that your LAN subnet be something other than 192.168.1.x though, as that is the Modem's LAN IP subnet This does break the WiFi remote control app functionality to control the IPTV receivers via smartphone/tablet, though (unless someone has a good suggestion/fix for how to make that work with an IP Passthru'd Router on a different subnet?) |
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OpTiC Premium Member join:2014-03-08 West Covina, CA |
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The good thing about Time Warner Cable is unlimited data. If you go with Uverse you will have a 250gb cap and every time you go over you will be charge $10 every 50gb you go over. |
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trparky
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2014-Jun-24 12:50 pm
They don't enforce the data usage caps on AT&T uVerse. |
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How does the subnet cause an issue? Sorry if thats a dumb question. Can't I just disable DNS/DHCP In the AT&T box, set the ASUS to a static IP (Ex 192.168.1.1), and have it handle the DNS and DHCP stuff?
I know with FIOS, the STBs require a 192.168.1.10x address. So I turned off the Actiontec (Verizons routers) DHCP and DNS, made the STBs static as .10x addresses, and set my DHCP Server in my own router to lease from 192.168.1.2-192.168.1.99 to prevent conflicts. Verizon's router took the 192.168.1.1, and I set my router to 192.168.1.50.
So if AT&T's uses 192.168.1.254, I could set my router to 192.168.1.1, set it to lease from 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.99, and set my single STB as static at whatever address AT&T wants, right? |
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2014-Jun-24 2:35 pm
You can't disable DHCP on the U-Verse modems |
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trparky Premium Member join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH ·AT&T U-Verse
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Because the default subnet mask that's used for the most common uVerse home network installation is 255.255.255.0, there are no borrowed bits thus not creating any new additional subnets.
If you used a custom subnet mask of 255.255.255.128 you could potentially create two subnets with addresses of .1-.126 and .129-.254. But I don't see how you could do this because there's no way for you to set custom subnet masks in the uVerse router.
You could set up your ActionTek router to assign addresses in the 192.168.2.x range thus creating two subnets with the same 255.255.255.0 subnet mask. |
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So essentially I need to give the AT&T box one set of addresses (EX 192.168.0.x, and give my router it's own (192.168.1.x), and have my router do DHCP Leases off it's subnet. Then configure the AT&T box to DMZ my router, right? |
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trparky
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2014-Jun-24 11:07 pm
You are talking about legacy DSL, yes... that has a 150 GB data cap. uVerse VDSL2 and IP-DSL based Internet has no data cap in place.
They have however talked about a 250 GB data cap but it has yet to be enforced and no one has reported being charged for going over the 250 GB cap.
I watch NetFlix like a fiend and have yet to be hit with a data overage fee. |
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