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tshirt
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Re: The Google of 2006 really loved ...

said by DataRiker:

It doesn't even matter. Google is having the effect they intended. To give other providers a push towards higher speeds.

It does matter because unlike swaying public opinion, businesses/other ISP's need to see a viable business case made, a model they can follow and profit from.
So far Google has released NO financial information to demonstrate that an investor driven company can, build and operate a new FTTH overbuild while offering a reasonable return to investors.
further No other business has be given the opportunity to cost shift so much of the risks on the local taxpayer while making a pathetic 7 year (much less by the time it's rollout) commitment to CONTINUE to serve at a reasonable price.
This is a terrible deal if in 5 years after all other providers have been driven off, google (or their selected spinco) says" the new price is $XXX, pay us or get nothing"

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The hard part is building the last mile. After this is done I have a hard time understanding why fiber providers are artificially limiting speeds so low.

If Verizon is profitable selling fiber why wouldn't Google be?

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If Verizon is profitable selling fiber why wouldn't Google be?

As you note there is a price difference, and Verizon left a path to faster investment recovery through higher prices for faster/bigger/ better packages.
Google's road to profitability or breakeven is a mystery they now seem less likely to share.
look at Elton Musk and tesla, they worked through the popularity/pay back questions and now freely share what they learned hoping others will build around and buy/license their battery.

If Google could really prove their business case (as they said they intended at the initial announcement of "GF experiment" (their words) then reveal it and others will flock to it.

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said by tshirt:

said by DataRiker:

If Verizon is profitable selling fiber why wouldn't Google be?

As you note there is a price difference, and Verizon left a path to faster investment recovery through higher prices for faster/bigger/ better packages.

There is not a faster recovery through higher prices if very few / nobody subscribes to the higher tier in meaning full numbers.

When you split the difference I bet Verizon is right around ~70 dollars average take on internet or lower. Very few people can invest 100+ dollars per month.

Again, not following this argument at all.
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This isn't really relevant.

Every company does everything to their own benefit. It's just that google happens to do more that also lets the public benefit, whereas a lot of companies see it as a problem to let others benefit. See: RIAA/MPAA for example, who think if money isn't flowing to them it's lost.