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Re: problems with Comcast TWC Mergersaid by OpTiC :The problem about data threshold is a way of saying fuck the internet and use less of it. That not how it works. Instead of building up the infrastructure and being more future proof they put a cap a way of saying the reason why it's slow because you're using too much of it. Building more infrastructure costs money and then people will bitch about price increases. In other words no matter what they do people will bitch. So bother trying to make them happy? |
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2014-Jul-11 12:06 pm
Its not a matter of equipment and if it was caps would only be counted at peak times rather than 24/7. Its a matter of getting more money while providing less service and possibly propping up the cable/nbc divisions. |
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deadzoned Premium Member join:2005-04-13 Cypress, TX
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Are you actually insinuating that we don't get price increases because of all the money they are saving on not investing in infrastructure?! Cable price get raised twice a year, without fail. How is making one company even bigger going to be the magic bullet that makes them invest in infrastructure? Forget about the price increases because that will happen no matter what... |
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OpTiC Premium Member join:2014-03-08 West Covina, CA |
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They have the infrastructure but they are doing it for revenue.I=This merger can stifle innovation from steam, Xbox Live, Playstation Network. |
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said by deadzoned:Are you actually insinuating that we don't get price increases because of all the money they are saving on not investing in infrastructure?! Cable price get raised twice a year, without fail. How is making one company even bigger going to be the magic bullet that makes them invest in infrastructure? Forget about the price increases because that will happen no matter what... All I'm saying investing in infrastructure will be used as reason to increasing pricing as well as those other reasons. And customers want shit for free these days anyways. No one can be adult and meet in the middle of reality. |
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said by OpTiC :This merger can stifle innovation from steam, Xbox Live, Playstation Network. I hope you don't actually believe that. And Elvis is an alien the CIA killed Kennedy and 9-11 was an inside job. |
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said by Kuro :Its not a matter of equipment and if it was caps would only be counted at peak times rather than 24/7. Sure but most customers are morons and don't know the difference between a MB and a GB or anything technologically related. They also have a hard time understanding even the basic of billing statements and yet somehow you expect them to grasp the concept that there is a cap at certain times of the day and not others? I am 100% convinced that if they had a cap that only applied between 6 PM and midnight that during that time if their connection was slow most would call the ISP up and complain about their slow connection and also threaten to file a lawsuit contact the BBB and the government over their supposed slow connection even though the cap was fully explained to them. |
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Brim77 join:2012-03-16 Lansing, MI |
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The American taxpayer has already paid for telcos infrastructure. To the tune of $200 billion dollars since 1992. Your argument is invalid. |
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2014-Jul-11 1:26 pm
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I expect that if there is a hole in a sinking ship that it would be fixed not for it to keep running and add a wight limit on the passengers since most don't understand bouncy. People will always complain that goes into any business but to set a rule that is a patch at best and put no more work into it because 95% of your customers wouldn't understand is stupid. |
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tshirt Premium Member join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA |
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said by Brim77:Your argument is invalid. Perhaps you should consider this is a merger of to Cableco's entirely privately financed networks. Whatever payments Telco's did or didn't get has zero to do with this merger, or the discussion in this thread. |
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said by OpTiC :They have the infrastructure but they are doing it for revenue.I=This merger can stifle innovation from steam, Xbox Live, Playstation Network. I'm pretty sure without the innovation at cableLabs of DOCSIS and the huge number of high-speed cable connection it allowed Steam, Xbox Live, Playstation Network would not exist as we now know it. Rather then stifling it, it has allowed many millions more to play. Comcast doesn't want to limit steam, Xbox Live, Playstation Network type apps, but they certainly can profit from it. |
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said by Kuro :don't understand bouncy. Bouncy...is that what tiggers do? |
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2014-Jul-11 2:32 pm
Buoyancy. I don't understand a lot about how boats works should I be charged more to ride a boat with a hole in it then? |
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We helped pay for that as well and considering that they still make plenty of money they can continue to invest. |
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2014-Jul-11 3:20 pm
said by Skippy25:We helped pay for that as well and considering that they still make plenty of money they can continue to invest. So you think you own part of the supermarket where you shop, and part of the car dealership because you bought one of their cars too? Hope a doctor doesn't need to do a major op on you, you might own him 100%. |
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You are as bad as my 19 year old daughter that thinks she is entitled to everything and forgets that it is the blood of others that has provided for her.
Don't imply that they do not owe their consumers and/or communities anything when it is 100% them that has enabled them to make the billions.
Even the leach stockholders (who nothing for a company) should appreciate that no matter how egotistical or arrogant they are. |
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said by tshirt:said by Skippy25:We helped pay for that as well and considering that they still make plenty of money they can continue to invest. So you think you own part of the supermarket where you shop, and part of the car dealership because you bought one of their cars too? I think Skippy25 is referring to the fact that many ISPs received tax money to build their networks with the promise of wiring everyone with access at a certain speed. Once they got the money, though, many of the ISPs skipped out on their end of the deal but argued that they shouldn't need to pay the money back. Granted, while I know for a fact that Verizon did this, I don't know if Comcast did it too. |
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tshirt Premium Member join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA |
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2014-Jul-14 11:22 am
some Telco's in some areas received tax incentives (not cash) to begin a build out. Cableco's are privately financed, and in fact pay a large number of taxes and fees into the public coffers. Skippy25 Knows this but likes to confuse the issue with disinformation, because he (for unknown reasons )thinks that the fees previously paid to cablecos bought MORE than monthly service, and they should now somehow be obligated to run their business for public benefit as nonprofits (he seems to believe corporations (except Google) should be nationalized) |
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