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SuperNet
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New Mac's, do you reinstall when you 1st get them?

Who reinstalls there Mac's when they 1st get them?
I do it so I can get the "junk" off I don't need...

Mike
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What junk?

donoreo
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said by Mike:

What junk?

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SuperNet
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iPhoto,iMovie,GarageBand,Pages,ETC..

I never use that stuff..

Mike
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Interesting.

donoreo
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You can just delete those, they do not leave a lot of junk behind. This is not Windows you know.

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said by donoreo:

You can just delete those, they do not leave a lot of junk behind. This is not Windows you know.

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said by SuperNet:

Who reinstalls there Mac's when they 1st get them?
I do it so I can get the "junk" off I don't need...

I used to, because back in the day the default OS X install contained about 2GB of printer drivers and 1.5GB of language translations...on a 40GB HDD. It also gave me a chance to install the BSD command line tools and X11.

But since the Lion days, the base install is quite small and the rest gets installed on demand.

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I wish it would let you at least move apps like Chess, Dictionary, Font Book, Mail, etc (to a sub-folder so those apps don't clutter up the main Applications window).

Thinkdiff
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What's stopping you from moving them to a folder?
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I think Apps NEED to be in the Apps folder.

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said by Thinkdiff:

What's stopping you from moving them to a folder?

You haven't tried it, huh ?

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When I get a new Mac I use it as it comes. That's a Mac luxury. No bloat ware.

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said by adam9c1:

I think Apps NEED to be in the Apps folder.

Apple has defined certain apps as "needed by OS X" and won't allow you to move them. I have 3-4 sub-folders under Applications and have moved apps like FaceTime, Garage Band, Photo Booth, etc already.

Some apps, I can understand since they may get launched by other apps and are hard-coded to find them in a certain location. But Chess ? iBooks ? Maps ? There's plenty more....

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Get info on the one you want to move and make yourself the owner with read write permissions and you can move it where ever you would like. Just tested it.

Hall
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I figured there was a brute-force option for moving things like this... I may resort to that.

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said by Hall:

said by Thinkdiff:

What's stopping you from moving them to a folder?

You haven't tried it, huh ?

Never tried moving those specifically, but that doesn't mean you can't. All OS X restrictions can be overridden, unlike iOS:

mbp:~ Td$ sudo mv /Applications/Chess.app /Applications/Crap\ Apps 
Password:
mbp:~ Td$ ls /Applications/Crap\ Apps/
Chess.app
mbp:~ Td$ 
 

IMO, this method is a bit better than changing the ownership, but you do have to use Terminal. So be careful.

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If there were a way to automate all of this perhaps? ~ A sort of tweaking software.

But this is not Windowz, so maybe not?

Just an idea whose time has yet to arrive perhaps?

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It's probably like IE which the OS needs to function so you can't move it.

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You can move apps like Chess. They are owned by root which means only root can do this. There are many work arounds, but the terminal commands are by far the easiest. OS X is, at it's base, a pretty GUI on top of UNIX. Sometimes terminal is the best way.

As for removing Garage Band, it actually does leave a fair bit of stuff behind in the Library, that's where samples and other things get installed; granted I have not played with the 10.9 versions.

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Like how Windows is at it's base is DOS. Can't move IE that way though.

Hall
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Hall

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Windows NT and on are not DOS-based. 3.1, 95, 98, yes, they were...

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Though DOS is still a large part of Windows. Like IE that is way you can't get rid of IE. & any CMD command.

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said by chip89:

Like IE that is way you can't get rid of IE. & any CMD command.

the command prompt is not dos. it may support similar commands from the 'dos' days -- but it is simply a shell that interacts with the windows core dlls, etc.

q.

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Only did that back when I actually used the Windows that would come with PCs. Got rid of a lot of the bloatware crap and backwards customizations. I mostly use Linux now and my VMs have a corporate Windows license from work because they are for work. None of that anymore as corporate editions do not contain the bloatware and Linux lets you install just what you want from the get go. Never did so with Mac hardware at any point because OS X comes with them without any of that nasty bloatware. So why would you do that?

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Only did that with windows since it came with free trials and the manufactures junk pre-installed. Mac does not do that so there is no point in re-installing.

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I'm curious as to what you're using in PLACE of those apps.

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said by onebadmofo:

I'm curious as to what you're using in PLACE of those apps.

I do not use any of them either. Most have no replacement.
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There is no real need with Mac, Most of the bloat is apple stuff but its not really bad bloat unless you just want to clear HD space.

Windows computers have tons of bloatware because that is how they are so cheap, The reason you can get an HP for $300 is not just because its the bottom of the barrel hardware but also because the companies that make the bloatware pay HP to install it. All those trial versions of software are basically ads that partially pay for the PC.

This is one reason in the PC world you see gaming PCs priced into Mac territory, its not just that they charge more because they call it a gaming PC, And not just that they use good hardware. But also many lack the bloatware so basically you pay the actual price for the hardware.