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elefante72
join:2010-12-03
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Re: Holy OVERSELLING Batman

Wrong. Take two people:

Joe - He watches movies every night from 3-5 AM on the night shift and does 90 GB per month.

Sally - Watches youtube clips on her train ride home at 5:30PM every day and uses 1 GB in the month.

Which one do you think is impacting the network more? SALLY.

Its not about bits, its about WHEN you use the bits. The ENTIRE fallacy of usage caps in action...

And not some theory, look at Canada for TPIA (LEC in US). Their ENTIRE bill for the month is based upon the MAXIMUM usage at any point in the month. THATS IT (UBB - Usage based billing). In fact many allow zero caps on upload and no caps in the morning hours, because it DOESN'T MATTER to the operator--because the network is sized for maximum.

buzz_4_20
join:2003-09-20
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So way push wholesale caps when it's not the true root of the problem?
Why not have daytime/nighttime bits then?
elefante72
join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY

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Ask Verizon or AT&T that. There are theories on user behavior modification if one imposes hard caps w/penalties (more $$$)--that are very effective, or simply to make more money. However capped plans have a weak correlation to the network capacity issue because they are not reflective of temporal capacity.

The problem is the same in any network. Capacity, speed, latency.

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Shouldn't Joe get back to work?

ArrayList
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I think you missed the part where that was his job.
78036364 (banned)
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said by buzz_4_20:

So way push wholesale caps when it's not the true root of the problem?
Why not have daytime/nighttime bits then?

Because customers are stupid and don't even know a MB form a GB and you expect them to know about daytime bits vs nighttime bits?
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said by elefante72:

Wrong. Take two people:

Joe - He watches movies every night from 3-5 AM on the night shift and does 90 GB per month.

Sally - Watches youtube clips on her train ride home at 5:30PM every day and uses 1 GB in the month.

and under these scenarios NEITHER would be throttled but all the complainers don't understand this.

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Precisely, because 98% of them don't understand particulars about data, transfer speeds, etc. It became more apparent to me as I saw the last 3 posts where the poster displayed personal technical knowledge based content. All of the others repeat that of the other cows and believe everything their told. Verizon could easily, make tower congestion information readily available to everybody, they won't however because it will shows the holes their IUBE Technology and give users valid arguments that they were "THROTTLED" during a period that the tower they were attached to was not under heavy load. It is throttling without that transparency.