GuspazGuspaz MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC |
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Re: Wind Mobile - New wireless roaming rates for Canada & USThe domestic roaming rates are low enough that WIND really ought to get rid of Canadian roaming, make all plans Canada-wide for data/text/voice, and price their plans accordingly. That's what it'd take to compete with the big three, who are all doing that.
Alternatively, they could offer plans with no roaming in-province, in-country, or in-continent. |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress Premium Member join:2009-06-15 Canada |
They could (and maybe should) do both of those things.
There needs to be a better option for those of us who are not in a WIND 'Home Zone', as they used to (and may still) call it. |
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HiVolt Premium Member join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON |
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2014-Aug-20 2:20 pm
Does anyone know if the Samsung Galaxy S5 model that Wind sells is A, unlocked, and B compatible with the other bands that Rogers/Bell/Telus use?
I'm also thinking of perhaps breaking away from the iPhone when I switch to Wind, but If I spend $700+ on a phone i want to be able to use it with another carrier if I ever switch back. |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
No, they're locked to Wind, but you can have them unlock , for free I believe, after a couple of months. |
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HiVolt Premium Member join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON |
HiVolt
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2014-Aug-20 2:40 pm
said by elwoodblues:No, they're locked to Wind, but you can have them unlock , for free I believe, after a couple of months. Even if I purchase outright? |
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nope they got rid of the free unlock a few years ago |
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yyzlhr join:2012-09-03 Scarborough, ON |
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said by Davesnothere: OK, so am I to understand from this announcement that WIND will soon have a single a-la-carte rate structure for ALL roaming within Canada AND the lower 48 or so USA states, and that Canadian Roaming will mean 'anywhere which is not in a WIND Home Zone' ?
If that is true, then at least things will be simpler for subscribers than right now, as well as less costly under those circumstances.
SIMPLER seems better, in THIS case anyway.
So why did Rogers soften up on WIND for Canadian Roaming ?
Or is this just a re-crunch of the numbers by WIND ? (and Rogers did not change their wholesale rates)
Possibly they saved enough money by eliminating PAYG plans earlier this year to help with this coming group of changes.
Next, it would be welcome if they were to introduce a Canadian Roaming add-on (something like the USA $15 one), or a plan with such capability built-in.
EDITED to fix multiple typos It's possible that Rogers lowered their rates due to the CRTC's inquiry into this matter. They seem to react very quickly when the CRTC starts investigating things. For example, the CRTC will be examining whether mobile TV apps that are exempt from data caps should be allowed. Just a few days ago, Rogers announced that they're discontinuing their Mobile TV subscription and any usage will now count towards a user's data caps. |
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BGBWants moar interwebz Premium Member join:2009-07-09 Waterloo, ON |
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2014-Aug-20 5:04 pm
said by yyzlhr:It's possible that Rogers lowered their rates due to the CRTC's inquiry into this matter. They seem to react very quickly when the CRTC starts investigating things.
For example, the CRTC will be examining whether mobile TV apps that are exempt from data caps should be allowed. Just a few days ago, Rogers announced that they're discontinuing their Mobile TV subscription and any usage will now count towards a user's data caps. It's their way to get away with something as long as they can, and as soon as they smell trouble they run away. All this roaming cap ploy by rogers is them being able to say "Oh look. We are doing this in good faith because we can and we are awesome, but not because the CRTC is about to slap us on the wrist and force us to lower prices." and to the average consumer that don't know any better, it looks like rogers did this on their own, not because the CRTC was about to make them. |
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MaynardKrebsWe did it. We heaved Steve. Yipee. Premium Member join:2009-06-17 |
What would be really sweet is if the CRTC/Competition Bureau looked at the Rogers-Wind deal and ruled that Wind was owed a BIG $500MM refund. |
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bklass Premium Member join:2012-02-06 Canada |
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2014-Aug-21 3:48 am
The Comp Bureau submission to the wireless wholesale proceeding today contained this gem:
"Additionally, the CRTC could consider implementing vertical separation between incumbents' wholesale and retail operations. The information available on the public record of this proceeding is not sufficient for the Commissioner to offer a view on the overall merits of this alternative. From an economic perspective, any such remedy involves both gains (i.e., the elimination of the vertical foreclosure incentive) and costs of lost vertical efficiencies." |
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elwoodbluesElwood Blues Premium Member join:2006-08-30 Somewhere in |
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They overprice the phones just like the incumbents. The wanted more (even outright) for a Nexus 5 then I could buy it from the Play store.
As for locked.. I'm not sure, I know if you buy a phone outright from Robellustron, it'll still be locked. |
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BGBWants moar interwebz Premium Member join:2009-07-09 Waterloo, ON |
BGB
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2014-Aug-21 9:11 am
I actually just updated the wind app on my phone, and noticed a "unlock phone" option in it... But since my phone was already unlocked I have no need to click on it. |
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2014-Aug-21 9:36 am
And their website is now updated. Guess it's official now » www.windmobile.ca/plans- ··· y-plan-3Just in time for my trip Saturday. Guess it's time to turn off the roaming block. |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress Premium Member join:2009-06-15 Canada 1 edit |
Plans are more logically incremented as you move from left to right in their 'quick compare chart'.
OTHER quietly introduced changes in our favour :
$35 now also includes Canada-wide calling from WIND towers.
Before this, $35 did not, but $25 and $40 did. ($35 had data though before, to I guess justify its price.)
And now $50+ gets you USA-wide calling from WIND towers.
Before, I think that only $60 did. |
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Website ERRORs ! Something weird though, on the $25 and $35 plans : The top left chart indicates including Canada-wide calling from WIND towers, but the detailed pay per use list for those 2 plans says that such calls cost 15 cents per minute, like we expected only calls to the USA to cost. Either the calls to Canada are free, or they are not, on those 2 plans. Which is correct, and which is the typo ? I have added and annotated a screenshot to illustrate what I have noticed. See the circle-marked areas. This is the $25 screenshot. They have not so far noticed/fixed this inconsistency during the past 4 days. |
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Re: Wind Mobile - New wireless roaming rates for Canada & USI'm still on a PAYG plan with unlimited incoming calls and added the $5 unlimited text msg option
Since they removed PAYG the information on the rates is also gone from their site - at least I couldn't find it
Does anyone know the rates on talk and data while in Wind home zone? Hopefully it's cheaper than the roaming rates! |
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2014-Aug-22 10:53 am
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I have PAYG with Wind, a one minute incoming call in an away zone on the 21st shows a charge of $0.15 in detailed billing. So looks like PAYG customers do get the new rates, for voice at least, I have not checked data.
I currently have a $5/month for 50mb of data in Wind zones only addon. If PAYG gets the data rates I will be happy - half the per megabyte charge, not only in Wind zones and only pay for what I use. |
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2014-Aug-22 11:38 am
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For PAYG there has been no difference between roaming and home rates.
Depending on when you signed up being in a wind zone gets you: (1) free incoming calls and/or (2) free calls/data/text after spending $2 in a given day. So a one hour call, long distance, to mom on Mother's Day from within a Wind zone costs only $2. Regular internet is down so you use your phone as a hotspot overnight costs $4.
Some of the monthly addons only worked in a Wind zone as well - like the $5 for unlimited text, or $5/50mb social data. |
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koreybOpen the Canadian Market NOW join:2005-01-08 Etobicoke, ON |
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said by Guspaz:The domestic roaming rates are low enough that WIND really ought to get rid of Canadian roaming, make all plans Canada-wide for data/text/voice, and price their plans accordingly. That's what it'd take to compete with the big three, who are all doing that.
Alternatively, they could offer plans with no roaming in-province, in-country, or in-continent. Or simply make it a add on... Which I think they will. 10 bucks I would gladly pay to get unlimited Canadian Roaming. |
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said by eeeaddict:nope they got rid of the free unlock a few years ago Funny because that's still available for me with Wind. |
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After logging in to My WIND the account details show the new rates for my PYW plan. The detailed billing for a recent call shows $0.15/min compared to $0.20/min for older calls. Will have to cancel my $5/50mb social data plan and use some data to confirm the new data rate. |
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Dcite join:2006-05-12 Mississauga, ON |
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2014-Aug-25 3:56 pm
Looking at those numbers, I wonder if they would end up making a Wind for Away plan.. Since it would cost $7.50 for... 25 Minutes at 15c/min (3.75) 25 SMS at 5c/msg (1.25) 50MB at 5c/MB (2.50)
Add a small mark-up and you have your emergency device. |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress Premium Member join:2009-06-15 Canada 1 edit |
Re: Website ERRORs ! Something weird though, on the $25 and $35 plans : The top left chart indicates including Canada-wide calling from WIND towers, but the detailed pay per use list for those 2 plans says that such calls cost 15 cents per minute, like we expected only calls to the USA to cost. Either the calls to Canada are free, or they are not, on those 2 plans. Which is correct, and which is the typo ? I have added and annotated a screenshot to illustrate what I have noticed. See the circle-marked areas. This is the $35 screenshot, and they have pulled the graphic since the other day, but the text portions are still inconsistent in the manner which I described. They have not so far noticed/fixed this during the past 4 days. |
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MORE Website ERRORs ! I only noticed this one TODAY : See the annotations in the screenshot : ^^^ What I see here looks to be their PREVIOUS $35 plan's description. It's OK to try to save money in their operation, but website errors could cost them more. Note to WIND's CEO : I'm available at reasonable rates for website design/editing/proofing. (Please register here and send me a private message.) |
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BGBWants moar interwebz Premium Member join:2009-07-09 Waterloo, ON |
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2014-Sep-8 9:08 pm
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Re: Wind Mobile - New wireless roaming rates for Canada & USI finally got all my "Roaming" usage posted today for my trip the end of august. I was out of coverage for about 9 days, and I used 3 minutes of voice, sent 42 SMS messages, and used 110 MB of data (I kept it on Wi-Fi when possible). Under the old system, this would have cost me $116.90 + tax = 132.09. With the new rates it only will cost me $8.10 + tax = $9.15. I am quite happy with this (Especially seeing last time I used a Fido prepaid SIM it cost me 30 bucks). I think I am now going to leave the "Away" feature on and continue saving the 35 bucks a month I am saving over what I was paying Telus. |
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I'd like to give WIND a try but I'm in an AWAY area. Why don't they offer "pay and talk away" or something to capture customers outside their service area. Like speakoutwireless and petrocanada does. |
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Speakout and petrocanada don't have their own networks, they run on rogers network. They have no "away" zones as far as I know. |
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DavesnothereChange is NOT Necessarily Progress Premium Member join:2009-06-15 Canada |
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said by spock8:I'd like to give WIND a try but I'm in an AWAY area. Why don't they offer "pay and talk away" or something to capture customers outside their service area. Like speakoutwireless and petrocanada does. WIND stopped offering that to new customers back in March, when they forced us to choose a plan with a monthly rate, and still charge us extra if we are not calling from a WIND 'Home' zone. Last time I checked, the other two companies did not make a distinction as to where you are located when calling out, regarding their PAYG rates, as long as you are local to wherever your chosen phone number is located. |
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