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beeman65

join:2001-07-23
Mckeesport, PA

Please...

"There are more than nine and a half million broadband subscribers now. Once those large pipes and high-speed access subscribers begin to increase, we can be terrorized by what's going on."

I'm sure everyone will be downloading movies and music 24/7 allowing him to fall to his knees and weep like a baby. Wonder what this guy's salary is? Is downloading one stinking song every two weeks going to diminish the change he uses to buy a Snickers bar?

I actually like to buy DVD's for their quality and content. I don't think you can download EVERYTHING (extras, etc) from a DVD off the internet. If there is a way to do that, I'd like to know, but I'd still buy DVD's and that's it.

Also, has any executives from stores like Suncoast or Sam Goody spoke out on these "devilish" deeds? I mean these are the stores that most people buy CD's and movies from and these are also the stores that would collapse before the respective industries would. Obviously, if somehow, someway, the MPAA and/or RIAA implodes, these stores will cease to exist, so the inverse is true.


damonlab
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join:2001-05-02
Detroit, MI

" I don't think you can download EVERYTHING (extras, etc) from a DVD off the internet. If there is a way to do that, I'd like to know"

For one movie and all of its extras you need to download over 4GB of vob files... and you need a dvd burner.
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PokeyThePenguin

join:2001-06-20
Los Angeles, CA

OMFG!!! Why doesn't anyone challenge idiots like these with facts?!?!? This guy gets away with ridiculous statements like "You can download a song over a 56K modem almost in real time." Maybe because he is a lobbyist and he talks to other idiots in the senate and congress that have less of a clue than he does he gets away with it. Valenti is trying to use mp3 as an example for movies. But even a compressed movie (like DivX) is larger than a regular music cd in .wav format. So how is this idiot allowed to compare compressed mp3's to movies in peer to peer networks? Afterall, how many people are downloading ripped .wav files of songs on peer to peer networks? How many people can afford to give up that kind of upload time? Does Valenti think broadband on peer to peer means that everyone has a T1 line? Someone needs to shut this guy up with facts before he spouts more crap to lawmakers.

I read an article (I forget where, sorry) that senator Diane Feinstein (D-Ca), read: bought by Valenti, had a press conference where she showed that one of her aids had downloaded a movie off of the internet (GASP! WOOOO!). These idiots are trying to show what's possible not probable or even likely. "Senator Feinstein, How long did it take your aid to download that movie? 12 hours? 18 hours? 24 hours?" By the logic of their arguments no one would ever pay $8 to see a movie in a theater and would just pay $3 rent a dvd even if there was no pirating of movies.



damonlab
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join:2001-05-02
Detroit, MI

reply to beeman65
More people up/down full length wav cds (non mp3) then you might think. There is not much difference between that and 1 to 2 GB for a movie. You just gotta have the right amount of bandwidth.


xrobertcmx
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join:2001-06-18
Sterling, VA
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reply to damonlab

said by damonlab:
" I don't think you can download EVERYTHING (extras, etc) from a DVD off the internet. If there is a way to do that, I'd like to know"

For one movie and all of its extras you need to download over 4GB of vob files... and you need a dvd burner.

Ever heard of DivX?

PokeyThePenguin

join:2001-06-20
Los Angeles, CA

reply to damonlab
Yes, but the thing is I don't think your average user has the 'right amount of bandwidth'. There's a big difference between downloading 4 meg files from different users and downloading 1 to 2GB files from a single user. According to Valenti in the article he will concede the 1% to hackers but he is saying 99% of the people have the bandwidth to download movies. I don't think that statement is true but even if that point is conceded that would mean a good proportion of the average user would need to have the upload bandwidth to serve the 99% (Valenti is talking about peer to peer networks). But more than the majority of broadband connections are not symmetrical and I just don't think have the upload bandwidth to upload in a 'reasonable' amount of time for the average user.


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