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intok (banned)
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Re: Charter Being DDOS'D

said by MikeGuy:

Google DNS works fine, 8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4

You shouldn't used Google anything.

howardfine
join:2002-08-09
Saint Louis, MO

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howardfine

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We shouldn't listen to you. Google is better than anybody and we use it exclusively in my web dev company, my two restaurants, and all my friends and family.

For whatever reason you choose to downgrade yourself to some other service, those other services do the same thing I presume you fear.

battleop
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Yea, Google would never use the data they collected on you...

It's trivial to setup and run your own DNS servers.
bozzy
join:2009-08-25
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said by battleop:

Yea, Google would never use the data they collected on you...

From Google:
quote:
Google Public DNS does not permanently store personally identifiable information.
IP information is deleted after 48 hours. They collect aggregate data, but nothing in it is personally identifiable.

Compare that to OpenDNS's privacy policy which allows them to store this data forever.

howardfine
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said by battleop:

Yea, Google would never use the data they collected on you...

They don't do anything different than any other service but, as I showed in my link, they've got your back.

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And you believe them just because they say so?
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Only on Government requests.
intok (banned)
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said by howardfine:

We shouldn't listen to you. Google is better than anybody and we use it exclusively in my web dev company, my two restaurants, and all my friends and family.

For whatever reason you choose to downgrade yourself to some other service, those other services do the same thing I presume you fear.

My privacy is worth more then your convenience.

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BlakePaulson
join:2008-08-06
Alexandria, MN

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said by intok:

You shouldn't used Google anything.

That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard.

I've used google's dns servers since they started offering them. Always speed, never have any problems with them, and unlike most ISP's who can't seem to get DNS right or have multiple issues with it, Google's DNS servers have just worked.

So just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean you you should be telling people not to use a product that will solve their issue.

NormanS
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said by howardfine:

We shouldn't listen to you. Google is better than anybody ...

On that list you linked: My ISP is better than Google; and their DNS servers work very well.
intok (banned)
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said by BlakePaulson:

said by intok:

You shouldn't used Google anything.

That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard.

I've used google's dns servers since they started offering them. Always speed, never have any problems with them, and unlike most ISP's who can't seem to get DNS right or have multiple issues with it, Google's DNS servers have just worked.

So just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean you you should be telling people not to use a product that will solve their issue.

Yeah, I'm not the moron willing to give a for profit advertising company that almost assuredly has received an NSL for ALL of their customer data. Every bit of information there is to know about your life in a one stop shop of Email, search results, shopping, documents, site's you've visited directly via their DNS, passwords to all the site's you've visited should you have used a Google hosted email address which includes more then just Gmail, your current location and where you've been via an Android device with GPS or a cell network, and so on and so forth.

»i.imgur.com/2lJsBqv.jpg

Expand your moderator at work

Jaybonaut
join:2012-05-29
Sheboygan, WI

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Re: Charter Being DDOS'D

Dear god you are paranoid... but then again, maybe you have to be - we don't know what you are doing with your connection.
intok (banned)
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said by Jaybonaut:

Dear god you are paranoid... but then again, maybe you have to be - we don't know what you are doing with your connection.

Nope, I'm just not naive as to the potential consequences of giving my information out.

Jaybonaut
join:2012-05-29
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said by intok:

Nope, I'm just not naive as to the potential consequences of giving my information out.

Neither are most of us - we just don't announce it and insult others for not copying the behavior you are describing.
intok (banned)
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said by Jaybonaut:

Neither are most of us - we just don't announce it and insult others for not copying the behavior you are describing.

You guys came after me for pointing out that using Google services such as their DNS is bad advice.

howardfine
join:2002-08-09
Saint Louis, MO

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said by intok:

You guys came after me for pointing out that using Google services such as their DNS is bad advice.

Cause that statement is bad advice.
intok (banned)
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intok (banned)

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Only if you're on the Google koolaid, the whole "don’t be evil" shtick went out the window the instant they went public.

Host your own DNS or use a more transparent organization's like OpenDNS. Relying on Google for anything IS bad advice.

NormanS
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NormanS

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said by intok:

.. or use a more transparent organization's like OpenDNS.

You can say that with a straight face? Do you not know that OpenDNS is to Google as arsenic is to cyanide?
intok (banned)
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I take it you never used their PAID DNS services?

What's better, a free proxy site or a paid non US based VPN service?

NormanS
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NormanS

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said by intok:

I take it you never used their PAID DNS services?

No, sir, I have not. Where did you advise to use their paid DNS service?

For my purpose, my (six-star "has your back") ISP DNS servers work just fine. DNS benchmarks I have run show them (marginally) faster than either Google, or OpenDNS.
bozzy
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said by intok:

My privacy is worth more then your convenience.

If that is the case, I wouldn't use Charter or OpenDNS. Their privacy policies for DNS are much worse than Google's.
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said by intok:

Yeah, I'm not the moron willing to give a for profit advertising company that almost assuredly has received an NSL for ALL of their customer data. Every bit of information there is to know about your life in a one stop shop of Email, search results, shopping, documents, site's you've visited directly via their DNS, passwords to all the site's you've visited should you have used a Google hosted email address which includes more then just Gmail, your current location and where you've been via an Android device with GPS or a cell network, and so on and so forth.

»i.imgur.com/2lJsBqv.jpg

You realize this thread is about DNS? I assume you haven't read the Google DNS privacy policy then. While the things you say may be true, it is not true for Google DNS.