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rebus9
join:2002-03-26
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Re: Netflix should quit whining and sue if they felt wronged

said by jmn1207:

said by Torts :

Who clogged them?

Comcast customers requesting data.

+1

Comcast knew their peering with Cogent was congested, inadequate.

And they knew if they did nothing to fix it, Netflix would bleed customers until they (Netflix) cut a deal for direct interconnection with Comcast.

Comcast was clearly and absolutely the abuser.

There are 3 losers in this game:

1.) Netflix, who was unable to reach its paying customers.
2.) Netflix customers, who couldn't stream content because of Comcast's bully tactics.
3.) Cogent, who lost billable traffic when Netflix cut private deals.
98778011 (banned)
join:2014-08-24
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Maybe next time Netflix won't go to the bottom of transit/CDN carriers for services. Cogent has had problems in the past with their peering where it was one sided. Everyone loved the ISPs were standing up to Cogent and now since Netflix is involved it's all of a sudden different, and Cogent is the king no. BS. Tell Cogent to upgrade their links and pass equal data or pay for it. If they cut a deal with Netflix that was less than what they would pay Comcast or even Verizon to upgrade the links, well that's the cost of doing business and Cogent can eat the difference and pay for what is not equal.
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And Cogent is still getting paid how do you think they're reaching CableOne?? or Charter??? And every other ISP even Bell Canada??? Still Cogent is in play. And that's their problem.

v6movement
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said by 98778011:

Maybe next time Netflix won't go to the bottom of transit/CDN carriers for services.

Comcast, AT&T, Verizon and TWC having peering congestion issues with a number of networks. Hrmmm. Interesting how that works.
said by 98778011:

Tell Cogent to upgrade their links

Cogent has upgraded their links, but they can't do anything about the other side when they're acting like immature children.

rebus9
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said by 98778011:

Everyone loved the ISPs were standing up to Cogent

What planet are YOU from? Everyone "loved" when ISPs made a chunk of the internet unreachable (by de-peering Cogent) such that ISP customers couldn't access the content they wanted?

Really? Wow.
said by 98778011:

and now since Netflix is involved it's all of a sudden different

Dead wrong. This is more of the SAME. ISPs have been using the same "if you want to reach OUR customers, then PAY us" leverage against competing transit providers for years. It's just gotten worse, and thus more visible, with Netflix.

You smell like a telco shill.
TruthTeller
join:2014-04-23
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K,

Not correct. NetFlix used Cogent, Level3, Telia, NTT, and even your own transit provider, Tata to reach your network (Comcast).

Or are you claiming that they lied in their FCC brief? You know better.
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Incorrect. NetFlix is peered with Bell Canada. Don't know about Charter but from CableOne it's using Level3.

KrK
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Don't confuse these guys with the facts. They need to blindly shill for Big ISP's anti-consumer and anti-Internet moves, all in the name of big shareholder returns. Your facts inconvenience them as they list off their political talking points.