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[HSI] No more caps on Oct 1st?

Old AUP. Mentions specific caps

»www.charter.com/browse/c ··· /res_hsi

New AUP effective Oct 1st no caps mentioned

»www.charter.com/browse/c ··· tial-aup

maybe someone with inside knowledge can let us know.

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This will be interesting. They didn't really enforce their data caps anyway, but knowing they (may) be doing away with them entirely sounds nice.
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That's the reason i went business sick of getting calls about me using too much bandwidth guess only some areas had caps and others didn't.

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Section 2 of the New AUP....

· Excessive use of bandwidth that in Charter’s sole opinion, places an unusually large burden on the network or goes above normal usage. Charter has the right to impose limits on excessive bandwidth consumption via any means available to Charter.
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meaning, they are going backwards from a hard, known cap, to a soft, unknown cap. awesome.
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That sucks, first person I've heard get that notice. Here I am uploading 32TB or Photos to crashplan as I type this and they don't mind one bit.

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They are going it to get the Comcast-Time Warner Cable-Charter merger approved.
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said by markopoleo:

That sucks, first person I've heard get that notice. Here I am uploading 32TB or Photos to crashplan as I type this and they don't mind one bit.

I hope that was sarcasm.

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said by 78036364:

said by markopoleo:

That sucks, first person I've heard get that notice. Here I am uploading 32TB or Photos to crashplan as I type this and they don't mind one bit.

I hope that was sarcasm.

Happens all the time. People like them are abusing it and should be kicked off. You would think Charter reps. lurk and would see posts like these. Then drop the hammer for being sly about it.
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I'm just wondering how one uses 32 TB in a month? You'd have to have a 100 Mbps connection downloading 24/7 to do that
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I'm just wondering how one uses 32 TB in a month? You'd have to have a 100 Mbps connection downloading 24/7 to do that

I am with you. How do you use that much data? I don't have that much time to spend on the Internet. I asked the same thing one people complain about a wireless company clamping down on 40GB on grandfathered "unlimited" plans.

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Notice that he says
said by Here I am uploading 32TB or Photos to crashplan :


He may be making backups from his hard drive ... but at what upload speed?

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He says "Photos" so I presume he's into photography and a bunch of big, high-rez images can build up quick; especially if he's also into video. However, I don't know if even pros upload that much to a server.

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said by OpTiC :

They are going it to get the Comcast-Time Warner Cable-Charter merger approved.

If so, I wonder why, when Comcast is moving to caps, after enough of their test market data is accumulated?

That's one of the reasons I hated to learn Charter is dumping the GA market, because Comcast is using Atlanta as a test market and they use that incremental charges method. They charge you a set amount for each 50GB above your cap. I prefer Charter's method.
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said by bkoeni1:

Notice that he says

said by Here I am uploading 32TB or Photos to crashplan :


He may be making backups from his hard drive ... but at what upload speed?

You can't upload 32 TB in a month. With 5 Mbps upload the max is 1.5 TB a month and that's if you're uploading 24/7.

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I will also be affected because I'm a TWC customer in Los Angeles and will become Comcast.
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The new AUP has this section which is missing from the old one:
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Because the Service is for residential use only, any use of the service for non-residential purposes is not permitted and may result in reduction in service, suspension, or termination at the sole discretion of Charter. Non-residential purposes include, without limitation, the following:

· Running any type of server on the system that is not consistent with personal, residential use. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, SMTP, POP, HTTP, SOCS, SQUID, NTP, DNS or any multi-user forums.

-------------------------

Not a huge issue (Though I think they misspelled SOCKS) for most users but the Non-Residential purposes statement is a bit of a concern since I work from home. I have been considering moving to Charter Business anyway but maybe this is a sign they want corporate remote workers like me to move off a residential plane?
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So what does this really mean? How much is it acceptable to use Charter home Internet? Is it OK to use 500GB or 1TB a month? Is it OK to go out and buy a 4K tv and stream 4K content with movies taking up to 70GB each? The download speed certainly seem to be high enough that the network shouldn't be strained by streaming 4K or a user doing a couple TB a month.

Or do we still need to stick to a 250GB guideline?
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I have always averaged about double that guideline since the launch of the caps without a peep from charter mind you the population in my city is small as long as you don't go way overboard constantly I doubt charter will do anything.

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In 15 years of using Charter residential, I've never had or heard of such a phone call with a family of four heavy users of Netflix and running two businesses. What I've always heard is they're on the look out for the mega downloaders and not people who watch a few movies a day.
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It's more about how congested your node is. Heavy users do get contacted in congested areas.

Remember most cable systems are usually oversold. If everyone on your node tried to use the 60mbps or 100mbps of bandwidth charter is starting to provide, there's no way everyone would get their speeds (unless charter runs 10gbps fiber backhaul to every node or multiple gbps runs to each node.)
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Why would you think that? I backup all my data online. That was just photos I do HD movies etc. I did 42gigs last week backup.
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Never said it was a month..But %80 of the day i'm uploading.

Been doing it at least over 5 years and no complaints. Brother does the same as me, his is mostly audio/photo/data.
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We are not abusing it when they don't say you can't. %99 of people who get internet don't know about caps anyways. Just like no one reads agreements that pop up in software when you install it.

Charter approach is, as long as its not hurting anyone and they are paying no harm done.

The idea that its "abusing" data is just insane reasoning.
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said by markopoleo:

Why would you think that? I backup all my data online. That was just photos I do HD movies etc. I did 42gigs last week backup.

You didn't say GB you said 32 TB as in TERRAbytes in your other post. It's impossible to UPLOAD 32 TB with Charter.

Also why do you need to back up so much data? How much of it is redundant. Stuff you've backed up 100 times already? I would thin one only need to back up new stuff. That seems more practical and time saving.

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I think he was joking.

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No. You can sugar coat it and try to justify it all you want. When you are downloading or uploading terabytes worth of data. Its pure abuse and you should be kicked off. You clearly mentioned 32 TB that is beyond excessive. I still cant believe Charter has not kicked you off their network for that. As I said before. You keep on being sly about it on here. Charter does roam the forums. All it takes is to run into the right one I would imagine.
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said by 78036364:

said by markopoleo:

Why would you think that? I backup all my data online. That was just photos I do HD movies etc. I did 42gigs last week backup.

You didn't say GB you said 32 TB as in TERRAbytes in your other post. It's impossible to UPLOAD 32 TB with Charter.

Also why do you need to back up so much data? How much of it is redundant. Stuff you've backed up 100 times already? I would thin one only need to back up new stuff. That seems more practical and time saving.

BF, it is none of your business on how or what is uploaded in "TB".
No one cares when you are several states away
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said by BoMarty:

said by 78036364:

said by markopoleo:

Why would you think that? I backup all my data online. That was just photos I do HD movies etc. I did 42gigs last week backup.

You didn't say GB you said 32 TB as in TERRAbytes in your other post. It's impossible to UPLOAD 32 TB with Charter.

Also why do you need to back up so much data? How much of it is redundant. Stuff you've backed up 100 times already? I would thin one only need to back up new stuff. That seems more practical and time saving.

BF, it is none of your business on how or what is uploaded in "TB".
No one cares when you are several states away

I guess I shouldn't care if some guy in California wastes water either. Not trying to tell anyone what do to do. just trying to help. honestly no one asked for your opinion either. So your post is both hypocritical and ironic.
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32 gb this week, 32TB total. That is not impossible.

Its routine backups, it backs up to crashplan how hard is that to understand.