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78036364

join:2014-05-06
USA

[HSI] No more caps on Oct 1st?

Old AUP. Mentions specific caps

»www.charter.com/browse/content/res_hsi

New AUP effective Oct 1st no caps mentioned

»www.charter.com/browse/content/r···tial-aup

maybe someone with inside knowledge can let us know.

DarkenMoon97

join:2013-11-14
New Baden, IL
This will be interesting. They didn't really enforce their data caps anyway, but knowing they (may) be doing away with them entirely sounds nice.

ryu4000

join:2006-11-18
Picayune, MS
reply to 78036364
That's the reason i went business sick of getting calls about me using too much bandwidth guess only some areas had caps and others didn't.


snailspace

join:2000-11-27
Montevallo, AL
Reviews:
·Charter
reply to 78036364
Section 2 of the New AUP....

· Excessive use of bandwidth that in Charter’s sole opinion, places an unusually large burden on the network or goes above normal usage. Charter has the right to impose limits on excessive bandwidth consumption via any means available to Charter.

Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI

1 recommendation

meaning, they are going backwards from a hard, known cap, to a soft, unknown cap. awesome.

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
reply to ryu4000
That sucks, first person I've heard get that notice. Here I am uploading 32TB or Photos to crashplan as I type this and they don't mind one bit.

OpTiC
Premium
join:2014-03-08
West Covina, CA
reply to 78036364
They are going it to get the Comcast-Time Warner Cable-Charter merger approved.

78036364

join:2014-05-06
USA
reply to markopoleo
said by markopoleo:

That sucks, first person I've heard get that notice. Here I am uploading 32TB or Photos to crashplan as I type this and they don't mind one bit.

I hope that was sarcasm.

KoRnGtL15
Premium
join:2007-01-04
Grants Pass, OR
kudos:1
said by 78036364:

said by markopoleo:

That sucks, first person I've heard get that notice. Here I am uploading 32TB or Photos to crashplan as I type this and they don't mind one bit.

I hope that was sarcasm.

Happens all the time. People like them are abusing it and should be kicked off. You would think Charter reps. lurk and would see posts like these. Then drop the hammer for being sly about it.

78036364

join:2014-05-06
USA
I'm just wondering how one uses 32 TB in a month? You'd have to have a 100 Mbps connection downloading 24/7 to do that

Big Dawg 23

join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN
said by 78036364:

I'm just wondering how one uses 32 TB in a month? You'd have to have a 100 Mbps connection downloading 24/7 to do that

I am with you. How do you use that much data? I don't have that much time to spend on the Internet. I asked the same thing one people complain about a wireless company clamping down on 40GB on grandfathered "unlimited" plans.


bkoeni1
The Ends Of Invention
Premium
join:2000-12-13
Fort Worth, TX
reply to 78036364
Notice that he says
said by Here I am uploading 32TB or Photos to crashplan :


He may be making backups from his hard drive ... but at what upload speed?


howardfine

join:2002-08-09
Saint Louis, MO
reply to 78036364
He says "Photos" so I presume he's into photography and a bunch of big, high-rez images can build up quick; especially if he's also into video. However, I don't know if even pros upload that much to a server.


msmisfit

join:2004-09-13
Lawrenceville, GA
kudos:2
reply to OpTiC
said by OpTiC :

They are going it to get the Comcast-Time Warner Cable-Charter merger approved.

If so, I wonder why, when Comcast is moving to caps, after enough of their test market data is accumulated?

That's one of the reasons I hated to learn Charter is dumping the GA market, because Comcast is using Atlanta as a test market and they use that incremental charges method. They charge you a set amount for each 50GB above your cap. I prefer Charter's method.

78036364

join:2014-05-06
USA

1 recommendation

reply to bkoeni1
said by bkoeni1:

Notice that he says

said by Here I am uploading 32TB or Photos to crashplan :


He may be making backups from his hard drive ... but at what upload speed?

You can't upload 32 TB in a month. With 5 Mbps upload the max is 1.5 TB a month and that's if you're uploading 24/7.

OpTiC
Premium
join:2014-03-08
West Covina, CA
reply to msmisfit
I will also be affected because I'm a TWC customer in Los Angeles and will become Comcast.

DA

join:2002-04-13
Greenville, SC
reply to 78036364
The new AUP has this section which is missing from the old one:
-------------------------
Because the Service is for residential use only, any use of the service for non-residential purposes is not permitted and may result in reduction in service, suspension, or termination at the sole discretion of Charter. Non-residential purposes include, without limitation, the following:

· Running any type of server on the system that is not consistent with personal, residential use. This includes but is not limited to FTP, IRC, SMTP, POP, HTTP, SOCS, SQUID, NTP, DNS or any multi-user forums.

-------------------------

Not a huge issue (Though I think they misspelled SOCKS) for most users but the Non-Residential purposes statement is a bit of a concern since I work from home. I have been considering moving to Charter Business anyway but maybe this is a sign they want corporate remote workers like me to move off a residential plane?

tkoyn

join:2014-08-15
reply to 78036364
So what does this really mean? How much is it acceptable to use Charter home Internet? Is it OK to use 500GB or 1TB a month? Is it OK to go out and buy a 4K tv and stream 4K content with movies taking up to 70GB each? The download speed certainly seem to be high enough that the network shouldn't be strained by streaming 4K or a user doing a couple TB a month.

Or do we still need to stick to a 250GB guideline?

Banger

join:2014-07-22
Sturgeon Bay, WI
I have always averaged about double that guideline since the launch of the caps without a peep from charter mind you the population in my city is small as long as you don't go way overboard constantly I doubt charter will do anything.


howardfine

join:2002-08-09
Saint Louis, MO
Reviews:
·AT&T Southwest
reply to ryu4000
In 15 years of using Charter residential, I've never had or heard of such a phone call with a family of four heavy users of Netflix and running two businesses. What I've always heard is they're on the look out for the mega downloaders and not people who watch a few movies a day.

BlakePaulson

join:2008-08-06
Alexandria, MN
Reviews:
·T-Mobile US
·Charter
It's more about how congested your node is. Heavy users do get contacted in congested areas.

Remember most cable systems are usually oversold. If everyone on your node tried to use the 60mbps or 100mbps of bandwidth charter is starting to provide, there's no way everyone would get their speeds (unless charter runs 10gbps fiber backhaul to every node or multiple gbps runs to each node.)

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
reply to 78036364
Why would you think that? I backup all my data online. That was just photos I do HD movies etc. I did 42gigs last week backup.

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
reply to 78036364
Never said it was a month..But %80 of the day i'm uploading.

Been doing it at least over 5 years and no complaints. Brother does the same as me, his is mostly audio/photo/data.

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
reply to KoRnGtL15
We are not abusing it when they don't say you can't. %99 of people who get internet don't know about caps anyways. Just like no one reads agreements that pop up in software when you install it.

Charter approach is, as long as its not hurting anyone and they are paying no harm done.

The idea that its "abusing" data is just insane reasoning.

78036364

join:2014-05-06
USA
reply to markopoleo
said by markopoleo:

Why would you think that? I backup all my data online. That was just photos I do HD movies etc. I did 42gigs last week backup.

You didn't say GB you said 32 TB as in TERRAbytes in your other post. It's impossible to UPLOAD 32 TB with Charter.

Also why do you need to back up so much data? How much of it is redundant. Stuff you've backed up 100 times already? I would thin one only need to back up new stuff. That seems more practical and time saving.


lineofsight

join:2003-01-03
East Saint Louis, IL
I think he was joking.

KoRnGtL15
Premium
join:2007-01-04
Grants Pass, OR
kudos:1
reply to markopoleo
No. You can sugar coat it and try to justify it all you want. When you are downloading or uploading terabytes worth of data. Its pure abuse and you should be kicked off. You clearly mentioned 32 TB that is beyond excessive. I still cant believe Charter has not kicked you off their network for that. As I said before. You keep on being sly about it on here. Charter does roam the forums. All it takes is to run into the right one I would imagine.

BoMarty

join:2001-02-01
Ballwin, MO
reply to 78036364
said by 78036364:

said by markopoleo:

Why would you think that? I backup all my data online. That was just photos I do HD movies etc. I did 42gigs last week backup.

You didn't say GB you said 32 TB as in TERRAbytes in your other post. It's impossible to UPLOAD 32 TB with Charter.

Also why do you need to back up so much data? How much of it is redundant. Stuff you've backed up 100 times already? I would thin one only need to back up new stuff. That seems more practical and time saving.

BF, it is none of your business on how or what is uploaded in "TB".
No one cares when you are several states away

78036364

join:2014-05-06
USA
said by BoMarty:

said by 78036364:

said by markopoleo:

Why would you think that? I backup all my data online. That was just photos I do HD movies etc. I did 42gigs last week backup.

You didn't say GB you said 32 TB as in TERRAbytes in your other post. It's impossible to UPLOAD 32 TB with Charter.

Also why do you need to back up so much data? How much of it is redundant. Stuff you've backed up 100 times already? I would thin one only need to back up new stuff. That seems more practical and time saving.

BF, it is none of your business on how or what is uploaded in "TB".
No one cares when you are several states away

I guess I shouldn't care if some guy in California wastes water either. Not trying to tell anyone what do to do. just trying to help. honestly no one asked for your opinion either. So your post is both hypocritical and ironic.

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
reply to 78036364
32 gb this week, 32TB total. That is not impossible.

Its routine backups, it backs up to crashplan how hard is that to understand.