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| | Well, have the laws changed. rofl..
Even though some of Jacks Facts are off. You must be in the dark if you think downloading material that you didn't rightfully purchase is not stealing or close to it.
It is apparent from these discussions, that we should break the first and then have the law changed. Similar to a highway that is 55 and the reality should be 65.
How many tickets does it take to change a law? | |
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| Re: Well, have the laws changed. You're missing the whole point of discussion. That part is completely irrelevant.
What *IS* the matrix, Neo? Control. Designed to turn a human being, into one of these; *holds up a wallet with a vaccuum cleaner labeled 'Media interests' continually sucking money out of it* | |
| | | | Re: Well, have the laws changed. Irrelevant? To who? You or the Jack Valenti's out there?
Look, if your old enough to vote. Go bark at your local representatives. Don't do the crime and and cry fowl play after your caught. | |
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| Re: Well, have the laws changed. Just an FYI, it's 'you're' when you're contracting 'you are' and 'your' when you want a possessive pronoun.
File trading is irrelevant, whether anyone is stealing is irrelevant. We're discussing personal liberties here, and the complete disregard for them that recent legislation displays. | |
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| said by p2pabuser:
Irrelevant? To who? You or the Jack Valenti's out there?
Look, if your old enough to vote. Go bark at your local representatives. Don't do the crime and and cry fowl play after your caught.
Problem there is that while I "Bark" at my local congressman, gov, president, et all. It does little good. 6-9 months later I get a pleasant little letter telling me to sit and spin, we have looked at the issues see: Artic drilling, loss of privacy, fleet gas milage mandates, water pollution and feel that we should drill, take away more, not up it by 2-3 miles, dump more into it. Then I go out and vote against the losers and what happens? They get voted back in, or the good ones out. Welcome to the USA.
I haven't given up yet, one day my vote will count and make the difference. | |
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| | Wow... you really are missing the whole point.
First, it's Jack Valenti that is trying to change the laws. How? By talking to his local representatives like you and I would? NO. He is a lobbyist with real lobbyist power and $$$.
Second, not everyone that is copying cds or movies is doing it for illegal purposes. Unlike what you and Jack want others to believe there are people that actually make copies of material they bought for legitimate purposes like making a cd with unwanted crappy songs removed, making mp3's for their computer or mp3 player, making a Divx bank of their movies, or simply for back up purposes. Instead of trying to rein in copying for illegal purposes he is trying to stop ALL copying. To loosely use your example, just because there are people illegally speeding in their cars, Valenti wants to make it so that all cars can't go over 55mph EVER.
By using RIAA/Napster/mp3 as an example and shouting "the sky is falling" to congress Valenti is trying to get laws passed that favor the MPAA. It's obvious that he is not interested in a fair arrangement but simply wants laws that will satisfy the MPAA's agendas. He wants to dictate and mandate by law what you can and cannot do with the products that you buy. | |
| | | | | | | Re: Well, have the laws changed. Juke Box
Jack Valenti isn't just trying to stop file sharing software. He is trying to make copying (into the same format or different) illegal, i.e. pre-file sharing software.
Sorry, I don't understand your response concerning speeding.
I didn't mean that lobbyists are bad but was responding to P2PAbuser that the MPAA and I are in different leagues. For instance I couldn't have contributed over $250,000 to Senator Hollings (sponsor of the CBDTPA) like the entertainment industry did. | |
| | | | | said by Juke Box:
But if I was an investor, I would say lobbyist for the people (in certain circumstances) would not be in my best interest either.
Here we are singing the "responsibility to the investors" song again.
Do you know that this is exactly why so many companies went under in the past few years? They cared too much about what their investors and the Wall Street were thinking of them. Not that I am denying the fact that a company must have a responsibility to its investors, BUT ITS FIRST PRIORITY SHOULD BE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ITS CUSTOMERS. If you ever have a business of your own, always remember that CUSTOMERS COME FIRST. If you listen to your customers, give them what they want, and do it better than your competition, you will be profitable, and your stock price will reflect it. This means that your investors will be pleased as well.
What record industry is doing today is simply pissing their customers off. I hope that one day their "genius" plan will backfire and when their profits turn negative, the investors will ask the record label execs to bend over.
Last, but not least, a message to the record industry. It was originally directed at Sprint PCS by the owner of »www.sprintpcssucks.org:
YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE YOUR MOST VALUED ASSET. KEEP SCREWING THEM, AND THEY WILL BECOME YOUR GREATEST LIABILITY.
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Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies... | |
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