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damir
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damir

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[Internet] Rogers IPV6 (6rd)

Hello guys,

Is Roger's ipv6 6rd still active?

if yes, what are the details - if somebody don't mind sharing.

Thanks

merc782
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Re: [Internet] ipv6 6rd

Yes. Its active. I use it on my openwrt based router

config interface '6rd'
        option proto '6rd'
        option peeraddr '66.185.95.192'
        option ip6prefix '2607:F090::'
        option ip6prefixlen '32'
        option ip4prefixlen '0'
 

damir
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damir

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Thanks a lot.

Rogers is coming tomorrow to hook me up with their service, just wanted to make sure i can get ipv6 as well.

v6movement
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said by damir:

Rogers is coming tomorrow to hook me up with their service, just wanted to make sure i can get ipv6 as well.

You can get IPv6 no matter what whether this unsupported unmaintained 6RD gateway is available or not.

merc782
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said by v6movement :

You can get IPv6 no matter what whether this unsupported unmaintained 6RD gateway is available or not.

Can you elaborate this a bit? are you talking about HE tunnelbroker ?

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v6movement

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said by merc782:

Can you elaborate this a bit? are you talking about HE tunnelbroker ?

HE, SixXs and other tunnel brokers. It's not as if tunnels have not existed for 10+ years.

SimplePanda
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said by v6movement :

said by merc782:

Can you elaborate this a bit? are you talking about HE tunnelbroker ?

HE, SixXs and other tunnel brokers. It's not as if tunnels have not existed for 10+ years.

Also, HE is a -lot- faster than Rogers service. The most I was ever able to get out of Rogers 6RD was about 6Mbps or so. HE.net would push close to saturation depending on the source site.

damir
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Actually, i decided to go with he.net instead of rogers.

Tnx

merc782
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Didn't knew that Rogers is throttling my ipv6 connection to 6mbps. A Quick ipv6 speedtest confirmed it. Will switch to HE tunnel broker.
merc782

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Folks using HE tunnelbroker, can you check if you ipv6.cnn.com website working for you? This worked fine on Rogers 6rd for me, but not on HE

damir
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also, can you do a speed test for both ipv6 and ipv4 if you don't mind, using HE tunnel broker?

This speed test checks both:
»speedtest.comcast.net/

I was using Chicago and Boston servers.

For some reason, i wasnt getting more then 25 mbit.
I was trying Toronto, Chicago, New York endpoints, same outputs.

Atm, ipv6 is down for me, cant check that for you.

Thanks
damir

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doesn't work, ipv6.cnn.com

5 55 ms 54 ms 68 ms 2001:1900:19:8::7
6 47 ms 43 ms 41 ms ae-2-4047.edge2.Washington12.Level3.net [2001:1900:4:1::3b9]
7 174 ms 61 ms 69 ms ae-2-4081.edge1.Washington12.Level3.net [2001:1900:4:1::3dd]
8 105 ms 97 ms 94 ms 2001:1900:4:1::3b6
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.

merc782
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Yup same results for me. I see full speed on ipv4, but ipv6 only goes to 25mbps

damir
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Clearly, rogers is shaping then. :\\

I Spoke to HE about this, no limitations on their end.
They checked bw usage on some of the endpoints i were using, and it was far from available bw, so, damn Rogers!
damir

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I also noticed, similar output once connected to pptp.

v6movement
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to damir
said by damir:

Clearly, rogers is shaping then. :\\

I Spoke to HE about this, no limitations on their end.
They checked bw usage on some of the endpoints i were using, and it was far from available bw, so, damn Rogers!

Must be. I have no problem maxing out my connection speed via a tunnel via HE and some of my tunnels are on 100+ Mbps connections.
v6movement

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said by damir:

doesn't work, ipv6.cnn.com

The issue is at CNN's side.

damir
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damir

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I asked about this in Roger's forum.

Thread:
»communityforums.rogers.c ··· id/18792

Lets see what they say.
damir

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They don't say anything, and probably won't.

Looks like .. rogers techs are not even checking that forum.

Probably, if i contact them directly about this, they will just tell me they are not limiting any protocols?:)

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said by damir:

Clearly, rogers is shaping then. :\\

I Spoke to HE about this, no limitations on their end.
They checked bw usage on some of the endpoints i were using, and it was far from available bw, so, damn Rogers!

Or not. There probably is just suboptimal peering.

Rogers really doesn't shape people's traffic anymore.

v6movement
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v6movement

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said by SimplePanda:

Or not. There probably is just suboptimal peering.

Rogers really doesn't shape people's traffic anymore.

Shaping peoples connections in their core network (for v4) and shaping peoples 6RD tunnels are two different things. The peering part doesn't make any sense, if it were that there would be more variable performance not people seeing the same results.

damir
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what i find weird is that both ipv6 and pptp are getting same outputs.

hopefully, somebody else with cgn3 modem and pptp vpn will do a speed test, and see if we are seeing the same thing.
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I just did some troubleshooting.

My Cable Internet service from Start is active a swell, so, i hooked up my DCM476 to splitter, kept both Internet's active (Rogers & Start).

Connecting to pptp from Rogers, i was able to see max of 25 mbit, and connecting to pptp from Start, i was able to max connection i have\had with start 60 mbit.

Clearly, either Rogers is limiting pptp + ipv6 tunnels or something is going on with CGN3.

I only use pptp for Netflix, 25 mbit is more then enough for SuperHD, but, wondering why is this happening.
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kiloohm
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Re: [Internet] ipv6 6rd

Damir,

I work for Rogers in the Network Technology team in charge of the IPv6 program and would like to provide some assistance in resolving these issues. Although the 6RD gateway is not an officially supported product, I am happy to assist any of our customers willing to use IPv6.

First and foremost, we are not shaping or limiting in any way PPTP traffic on the network. I would also be really surprised if the CGN3 modem is the cause of your issues but we can analyze the situation and find the root cause. It is possible that you are facing a fragmentation issue on your tunnel which has a detrimental performance impact.

Can you describe your setup (modem / router), as well as your tests results between the Rogers 6RD gateway and the Hurricane Electric 6to4 service. You can reply in this thread.

I will try to build the same setup as you so we can run similar tests and improve the performance.

Thanks

Dave

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Hello Dave,

Thanks for getting back to me (us) about this.

Modem: CGN3
Firmware: 4.2.4.3
Mode: BRIDGE (Tried gateway as well, same output)
Router: Netgear R7000
Firmware: DD-WRT 24800M
( »desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-A ··· _STD.bin )

1st setup:

ROGERS 6rd.
(MTU 1480)

Speedtest from: »speedtest.comcast.net/




Traceroute:
Tracing route to google.com [2607:f8b0:400b:807::1004]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  2607:************
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5    65 ms    61 ms    64 ms  2607:f798:10:22b::2
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7    62 ms     *      145 ms  2001:4860::1:0:713a
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9    59 ms   101 ms   107 ms  yyz08s10-in-x04.1e100.net [2607:f8b0:400b:807::1004]
 
Trace complete.
 
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2nd setup:
TunnelBroker (HE.net)
(MTU 1480)




C:\Windows\System32>tracert google.com
 
Tracing route to google.com [2607:f8b0:400b:807::1004]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  3    30 ms    41 ms    31 ms  ge3-8.core1.nyc4.he.net [2001:470:0:5d::1]
  4    30 ms    41 ms    30 ms  2001:4860:1:1:0:1b1b:0:11
  5    33 ms    32 ms    32 ms  2001:4860::1:0:6572
  6    48 ms    32 ms    32 ms  2001:4860::8:0:4397
  7    47 ms    47 ms    47 ms  2001:4860::1:0:713a
  8    48 ms    46 ms    45 ms  2001:4860:0:1::4ab
  9    45 ms    45 ms    47 ms  yyz08s10-in-x04.1e100.net [2607:f8b0:400b:807::1004]
 
Trace complete.
 

For TunnelBroker, i spoke to them, and they told me there is no limitation on their side.
Friend of mine on BELL 170\170 (i belive the connection is) he is able to max his connection on TunnelBroker, same Endpoint.
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VPN:

Server location Digital Ocean (New York).

1st test: PPTP (TCP)
Speedtest:

2nd test OpenVPN Access Server (UDP)
(Same server as PPTP)

Speetest:
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So, issues i am seeing are:

1st)

Not able to pull more then 25 mbit over ipv6, both Rogers 6rd and TunnelBroker (no limitation on their side, when i spoke to HE.net they checked the endpoint bw usage when i contacted them, and there was plenty of bandwidth left on the servers - i have e-mails \ proof of this if needed).

2nd)
VPN protocol (TCP only i would say, UDP is running much better).

Usually i get better results from OpenVPN Access server, just there are other people on VPN now at the moment, but, with PPTP i was never able to get more then 20-25 mbit (similar output as i am seeing with IPV6. (this was tested with both Bridge and Gateway mode from CGN3).

Hope you can help!

Thanks,
Damir

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said by kiloohm:

Damir,

I work for Rogers in the Network Technology team in charge of the IPv6 program and would like to provide some assistance in resolving these issues. Although the 6RD gateway is not an officially supported product, I am happy to assist any of our customers willing to use IPv6.

First and foremost, we are not shaping or limiting in any way PPTP traffic on the network. I would also be really surprised if the CGN3 modem is the cause of your issues but we can analyze the situation and find the root cause. It is possible that you are facing a fragmentation issue on your tunnel which has a detrimental performance impact.

Can you describe your setup (modem / router), as well as your tests results between the Rogers 6RD gateway and the Hurricane Electric 6to4 service. You can reply in this thread.

I will try to build the same setup as you so we can run similar tests and improve the performance.

Thanks

Dave

Sooo....

Any idea when native IPv6 will start rolling out?